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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Why does it matter what you call them? The point of the article was to say that these people were being courageous for posting their cartoon without fearing the retribution.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: Vasa Croe
I guess I'm not understanding your pov. If you are writing about a crazy lunatic religious ideology and using satire as your style to make your point, and that very same bunch of lunatics threaten to kill you for it, but you continue to expose their ideology as ridiculous AND dangerous anyway, YOU don't think that is being courageous? We all know that the West has been infiltrated and/or have homegrown radical Islamists within their borders even as we speak, so I fail to see where the country matters.
My POV is that this article is calling satirical journalism, courageous journalism.
It is actually doing a disservice to real media outlets by lending credibility to a satirical publication because of an attack on the publication headquarters.
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Please name a "real media outlet' for me.
They are all talking heads that read the same spin. It is all controlled propaganda. Some spun a little to the left and some spun a little to the right. Its ALL spun.
ETA: There is no 'true' journalist in the MSM anymore.
To preserver the freedom of the human mind ... and freedom of the press, every spirit should be ready to devote itself to martyrdom; for as long as we may think as we will, and speak as we think the condition of man will proceed in improvement.
Thomas Jeffersonedit on 1 7 2015 by stosh64 because: (no reason given)
I am not defending what happened to them in any way, but look at it like this.....school shootings happen because of a bully that arguably uses something similar to "personal satire"....bullies poke long enough and unleash a beast.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Why does it matter what you call them? The point of the article was to say that these people were being courageous for posting their cartoon without fearing the retribution.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Why does it matter what you call them? The point of the article was to say that these people were being courageous for posting their cartoon without fearing the retribution.
I read the article with a completely different view. I read it as the media trying to use this as a way to give themselves more credibility and to make the public seem like they needed to be afraid for their lives as well.
The guys that were killed would likely have mocked the story in my OP I believe.
The danger now is that journalists around the world will engage in self-censorship, that they will pull back on aggressive reporting and analysis of Islamic terrorism. For every potentially provocative article, headline or cartoon, some will ask themselves, is this worth the risk?
These guys were smart and good at what they did...journalism goes for sensational headlines for the most part....these guys were looking for a reaction, but in a very different way from journalism.
I find it cheap that MSM tried to compare themselves to this group.
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
originally posted by: OneManArmy
originally posted by: Pants3204
How is journalism NOT under fire? You absolutely must be courageous to be a reporter covering stories regarding Islam. Did 13 people not just get shot for what was published in a magazine? If I was a journalist I would really think twice before publishing the truth because who knows who will get shot or blown up for what you say?
And by those actions you would give the terrorists a victory.
Appeasement is NOT an option. It would only justify the actions of the terrorists.
The worlds media should unite in ridiculing the cowards that carried out this attack. A cartoon of mohammed on every front page, are the terrorists then going to kill every journalist in the world?
What we need is solidarity, not seperation, not fear, and certainly not appeasement.
Appeasement has gotten us here in the first place.
I wouldn't call it appeasement, if that were the case we would probably be looking at the Islamisation of Europe. At the moment, they are exploiting our tolerance and that's the worrying thing.
When has terrorism ever ended without one of two things happening? It's either a pre cursor to revolution or it ends up in negotiations with each side making concessions. Sure, it can last for years, but that's the only way the War on Terra can conclude.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: stosh64
My view on this is that the news outlets with journalists are trying to piggy back on this for a more sensational view of their own reporting. My thought is that these guys would actually laugh in the faces of the ones that wrote the story in my OP and write a cartoon mocking them as well.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Many stories have aired about ISIS and Islamic terrorists and whatnot, yet none of the actual news outlets have been attacked.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: OneManArmy
Such is the blowback for writing good satire... The dumb ones tend to be the most violent and dumb people generally don't get satire.
originally posted by: OneManArmy
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
originally posted by: OneManArmy
originally posted by: Pants3204
How is journalism NOT under fire? You absolutely must be courageous to be a reporter covering stories regarding Islam. Did 13 people not just get shot for what was published in a magazine? If I was a journalist I would really think twice before publishing the truth because who knows who will get shot or blown up for what you say?
And by those actions you would give the terrorists a victory.
Appeasement is NOT an option. It would only justify the actions of the terrorists.
The worlds media should unite in ridiculing the cowards that carried out this attack. A cartoon of mohammed on every front page, are the terrorists then going to kill every journalist in the world?
What we need is solidarity, not seperation, not fear, and certainly not appeasement.
Appeasement has gotten us here in the first place.
I wouldn't call it appeasement, if that were the case we would probably be looking at the Islamisation of Europe. At the moment, they are exploiting our tolerance and that's the worrying thing.
When has terrorism ever ended without one of two things happening? It's either a pre cursor to revolution or it ends up in negotiations with each side making concessions. Sure, it can last for years, but that's the only way the War on Terra can conclude.
The War on Terror isnt meant to be won its a perpetual money spinner for black projects and slush funds.
Which goes back into funding these radicals in the first place. And so the cycle is complete, the world stage is set, and the play goes on. All sides are funded and the psychopaths that run our own countries continue the charade that they "care", while using every opportunity(ie terrorist atrocity) to erode our freedoms, destroy our standard of living and take our livelihoods and destroy our culture while rewriting our history as they go. Going down as the heros and names of history.
We need satire to point out this craziness.
originally posted by: LOSTinAMERICA
I'm for destroying anyone who kills because of what another person wrote or said. I'm for destroying anyone who is fanatical in their religion to he point where they feel the need to kill. I'm against giving them a voice for murdering people. There is too much death and destruction.
I have avenged the great prophet was the one that lead me to the above. Brain damaged zealots need to be destroyed. You make an example out of them to curb the other zealots. If they don't get the moral to the story, they go out bloody also. You can be compassionate towards them and blame their actions on anything you want. You cannot condone innocent murders. You're damned right I want them dead and I hope the burn in hell.