posted on Jan, 6 2015 @ 01:21 AM
Now…suppose that there is an unusually abundant ratio of recessive genes carried in this population. Heck, maybe even just a ‘normal’ volume of
recessive genes in a small founder population, or a bit less luck in general for the spousal lottery. Coming from a larger populace initially, these
recessive traits would have been of little ill effect to the individuals, being ‘overexpressed’ by the dominant traits. They had no clue what
they were carrying (as do most of us still). Bearing in mind that these humans had no concept of genetics, they proceeded to do what we humans do
best – get busy!
The first generation would have been more or less ‘normal’. However, within just a couple of generations, everyone’s boinking their (very!)
close cousins since there isn’t any other genetic material available and the family trees have intergrown into what may be more aptly described as
several shrubs planted on top of one another.
What happens next? The recessive genes start stacking up. No input from outside, so the chance couplings result in more and more recessive traits
expressed. Overall group intellect takes a hit. Each generation is a little bit less viable than the last. Many children would die as a result of
the declining genetic robustness, but the ones that lived would pass on whatever they had that enabled them to keep going until reproductive age.
Say the common recessive alleles in the founder population favor polydactyly, polydentition, and giantism. The polydactyly isn’t a handicap at
all…the extra finger may have even benefitted them in manual tasks (See the amazing ‘Six fingered Phil’ - Flint Knapper Extraordinaire!).
Polydentia- no problem either. More food pulverization per chew may make for a faster eater, or one whose food is a bit more prepped for digestion.
Gigantism- also a plus in the Neolithic North American environment. “Nobody wrestles a giant sloth like Thar over there, man he’s huge! I bet he
gets all the chicks.” And so Thar, and all of his ilk, get an edge in breeding, perpetuating the bigness.
And so, they eventually make a somewhat stable (if rather small) subpopulation with the traits of polydactyly, polydentition, and an overall bigness.
Unfortunately, their differing morphology, along with their accompanying mental state changes made them not-so-cool people to live near once the
‘Native Americans’ started showing up from Berengia. Bad neighbors, and NOT someone you want your young Native American daughter bringing home,
There could be some speculation that interbreeding with outsiders became not only very improbable due to cultural differences, but physically very
unlikely due to size differentials. Imagine a St. Bernard trying to get with a Chihuahua…even with AI (which they didn’t have), the size of the
offspring would kill any would-be mother from the smaller population (if she lived through the intercourse itself), and breeding in the other
direction…well…let’s just say that vacuum wand may need an extension to reach that particular crevice, in the incredibly unlikely situation that
were to occur.
The reports of ravenous appetites? Think about it. You’ve got an 8 foot frame, and somewhere around ~500+ pounds of Homo Sapien unspecific to
maintain. Even at rest, you’re going to need thousands of calories more than your smaller counterparts just to keep going. Where did all that big
game in North America go, anyway? We/they ATE them, just like we did to the Mammoths of Eurasia and any other comparable food source our young
These aren’t today’s pansy-people either; their bones would have been like rocks compared to ours, with musculature to match. (Their
contemporaries would have had this also, but at roughly half the scale!) Even at ‘normal’ size these would have been some pretty intimidating
folk, but put them 2x as big as everyone else and they’d be pretty fear-inspiring IMO. Reports from the Native Americans seem to reflect exactly
Even if they *tried* to live with the new neighbors, things could go south fast. The area will only provide so much food…even when the NA's tried
to placate them with offerings (notably similar to middle eastern giant tales), that only put off the conflict. Eventually food runs out, and it’s
wartime. (Again, notably similar.)
As reported, this was not good news for the NA’s. Even a few of these brutes in concert could do a real number on your village. Still, they would
be very hated, and any chance the NA’s could use to team up on them would be looked upon as a good thing. “What? You got together with the men
from the other 3 villages and killed those 3 big #@#$% that ate all our buffalo last month? High five!”
And so, I suppose, there it is. But wait…
Where would this founder population come from? Well, the stories all seem pretty intent on white skin and red hair. Generally speaking, we’re
looking at a Eurasian source, and/or potential Neanderthal admixture. Not a lot of red headed white folk endemic to anywhere else. One might
speculate that this could have been a combination of ice travel, water travel along the ice, island hopping, and/or general blind luck of the founder
population in their migration from East to West until they hit the mainland and started in earnest. Surely it’s possible that a couple of hundred
people could take off for parts unknown in those days without anyone being the wiser. How much would a couple of villages worth of people who just
‘went away’ never to return really stick in the minds of those left behind? I think they’d have considered them pretty unimportant, and
forgotten their existence completely within a generation or so.
All of this is speculation, of course. If someone could just go dig up one of these guys from the Smithsonian vaults and get a DNA test to see if any
of this is legit, that’s be swell.
Of course, you’ll have to get them to admit that they exist first….
Thank you to all who have read my exhaustive spiel. If nothing else, I hope it may have been an entertaining or thought-provoking read. My first
thread in years, so please don't be too harsh. I'm not stating this as anything more than conjecture on the potential origins of a people who may
or may not have even existed, but it seems to me a plausible thing in light of the findings and general suppsition.