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For example everyone having the best medical care, access to any type of car, having a nice house, free travel anywhere, the healthiest foods, unlimited access to everything desired.
originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
For example everyone having the best medical care, access to any type of car, having a nice house, free travel anywhere, the healthiest foods, unlimited access to everything desired.
Sounds great. Without 'money' (or any medium of exchange?) or a totalitarian regime (?), what makes you think these things would exist to have access to in the first place.
"Everything's free" may sound nice, but how do you think that could happen?
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
For example everyone having the best medical care, access to any type of car, having a nice house, free travel anywhere, the healthiest foods, unlimited access to everything desired.
Sounds great. Without 'money' (or any medium of exchange?) or a totalitarian regime (?), what makes you think these things would exist to have access to in the first place.
"Everything's free" may sound nice, but how do you think that could happen?
Its not about me, and what I think. . . . Its about everyone working together for the common good.
originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
For example everyone having the best medical care, access to any type of car, having a nice house, free travel anywhere, the healthiest foods, unlimited access to everything desired.
Sounds great. Without 'money' (or any medium of exchange?) or a totalitarian regime (?), what makes you think these things would exist to have access to in the first place.
"Everything's free" may sound nice, but how do you think that could happen?
Its not about me, and what I think. . . . Its about everyone working together for the common good.
Again, that sounds real nice but how would that work?
Brain surgeon and burger flipper drive the same kind of car and live in 'common good' carbon copy homes. Why would the brain surgeon go through all the trouble to become one if he could just flip burgers or such? Why would there be cars to drive or homes to live in?
Remove the current motivation and replace it with, what exactly? Has anyone thought this through?
I think what you term as motivation would rather best be called leverage...
barter for equal material value is ethically sound
originally posted by: ElohimJD
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
Not literally, however in spirit and in truth there is something to this proclamation.
"The love of money, is the root of all evil" - 1 Timothy 6:10
"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and money." - Mat 6:24
So choosing to serve money (love) is the root of refusing to serve (love) Christ. If you refuse to serve Christ you could be considered against (anti) Christ ruling over your life.
God bless,
originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
So if we eliminate money we can have 'free materialism' ?
originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
No money required for materialism. You haven't proposed a single thing to eliminate materialism. You've only proposed the elimination of the monetary cost.
Materialism is the excessive desire to acquire and consume material goods. It is often bound up with a value system which regards social status as being determined by affluence as well as the perception that happiness can be increased through buying, spending and accumulating material wealth. Positively, materialism might be considered a pragmatic form of enlightened self-interest based on a prudent understanding of the character of capitalist society. Negatively, it is considered a crass, if not false, value system induced by the spell of commodity fetishism and void of more noble and worthy values.
Materialism is a state of mind, the desire to possess various items
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
originally posted by: Miccey
Old... Been know for ages....
Tell us how to get rid of it instead...
We build an advanced society and ban all forms of materialism & just make everything free for everyone. BAM done we evolve beyond the epic stupidity of materialism.
I think communism meaning no money is very good.
if the items are given then there is no longer an excess desire to obtain them.
originally posted by: arpgme
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
The name of the money demon is "Mammon" but according to Gregory of Nyssa (I admit I don't really know who he is at the moment but) he said "Beelzebub" is another name for "Mammon" so you may be right.
Money is a slave system that the majority are born into (except that it is not slavery for those born into the rich families because it works and their favor and the rich can just buy both parties of the voting system to keep full control).