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originally posted by: DYepes
I cant pretend to fathom the intricacies of time travelling, but I would imagine the reality is alot more dull than popular media. For instance in reality the odds are that it would be some universal anomaly thing that either sends you back or forward dead or alive, but likely stuck there permanently. No way of really finding your home. Like you basically just entered another reality where you will now be living out the remainder of your life if you even survived the event.
The only other theory supporting it would have that nobody would even notice the affects on history with time travel anyways because the events of the past or future would mean whatever occurred afterwards (or prior) would be the normal history and events those people lived and understood to be the normal. Like say you saw me purchase a winning scratch off for fifty thousand at the gas station. Im all stoked and # and end up using it to get a new car and buy a night at the club for everyone I know and however many guests they want to rsvp. It ends up being so epic that years later I get voted mayor because of the sheer awesomeness of that night.
Then you jump into your time machine to make sure you arrive 5 or ten minutes before I walked in and buy that same ticket. You check and sure enough its the winning ticket. I walk and you like all hyping it up. Im all "hell yea dude man thats why I play this # people can really win!" and anxiously buy more waiting for my chance. You end up paying off your bills and putting the rest into some indexes or bonds hoping for dividends.
I dont become mayor, some kids end up not being conceived that night. Does anything become different for the world?? Nope, it as if everything that happened was meant to happen exactly as it happened.
Time travel hurts me brain to discuss, please no more time travel
originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Violater1
She. But other than that, I am saying the American industrial military complex sold it's citizens to the greyes and we got contacted by another race offering us help, against this unholy coalition.
originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
I am not saying they are aliens, it is a disguise, in my opinion. But for whom? Someone who likes to control the population. Fill in the blank, I go back and forward on who or what is behind it. But if Greys are hopping around they are not from another world, timeline, or dimension. They are tools for exploitation. Well if...
originally posted by: corsair00
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
I was always quite intrigued with many aspects of the Dan Burisch story. Timeline 1 and 2, bifurcating timelines involving future A.I. "humans", deterioration from generations of cloning etc. I got a hold of that ARGGO video from Burisch's website before they were 'relieved of duty', or whatever happened, and I have watched it a few times. There are several interesting things they bring up. They discuss the whole cumbersome topic of "disclosure" and how there is so much public cognitive dissonance surrounding all of that - which is very true. I think the disclosure movement is problematic. But he also talks about other esoteric things relating to time and these so-called covert operations, which make me wonder if "they" are not themselves operating in the fourth dimension. The "breakaway civilization" or whatever.
But for the most part, the video is regarding very serious time travel research and a new breakthrough which could lead to large-scale timeline "jumps" and historical timeline manipulation. I heard him say a few names in this allegedly private and confidential video. One that specifically grabbed my attention was 'John'.
As for greys, agendas and Terence McKenna quotes; it reminds me of a great talk he did called 'Shamanic Approaches to the UFO', where he gives some pretty astounding theories, largely based on Carl Jung's work of the collective unconscious and synchronicity. He used to 'channel' entities, in a somewhat controversial way, and had a conversation about the so-called "alien agenda". It told him that "we have disguised ourselves as an extraterrestrial invasion as not to alarm people as to what is REALLY going on".
As for nanobots and shapeshifting A.I. creatures, it also reminds me of this scene from Steven Spielberg's mini-series 'Taken'
Carl Jung's 'Mysterium Coniunctionis' reminds us of the reality of the situation that insues once the psyche is hooked into making the transference to the alchemical or saucerian goal. Jung, citing Gerhart Dorn, stresses that the materialization of the stone is only a prologue to the experience of the perfected self in a state of illumination. Jung wrote, 'Though we know from experience that psychic processes are related to material ones, we are not in a position to say in what this relationship consists, or how it is possible at all. Precisely because the psyche and the physical are mutually dependent it has often been conjectured that they may be identical somewhere beyond our present experience.' Of what does this relationship consist? My own hunch, and it is only a hunch, is that an explicitly spatial dimension - of a co-dimension inclusive of our continuum - allows a hologram of other realized forms of organization, far distant, to become visible at certain levels of quantum resonance in the synaptic field. These levels have been damped by selection in favor of more directly relevant lines of information relating to animal survival. Evolution does not reinforce selectively the ability of an organism to perceive at a distance since such an ability has no selective advantage, unless the information it conveys falls upon the receptors of an organism already sophisicated enough in its use of symbols to abstract concepts for later application in different contexts.
Thus, these quantum resonances carrying intimations of events at a distance only begin to acquire genetic reinforcement once a species has already achieved sufficient sophistication to be called conscious and mind-possessing. The use of hallucinogens can be seen as an attempt at medical engineering which amplifies, for inspection by consciousness, the quantum resonance of the other parts of the spatial continuum holographically at hand. This experience is the vision which the UFOs and psilocybin impart: visions of strange planets, life forms, perspectives and societies, machines, ruins, landscapes. The hierophanies all unfold in a 'nunc-stans' that has all space—standing in it—like a frozen hologram. Thus, experimentation with hallucinogens by human beings and the rise in endogenously produced hallucinogens as one advances through the primate phylogeny could both be due to a slow focusing on the phenomenon of imagination. Imagination being the deepening involvement of the species with things beheld but not actually existing in the present at hand.