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Could climate change stop the next ice age?

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posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 11:26 AM
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Ok, just to get it out of the way, I would appriciate if any deniers would not participate. I don't want this to devolve into a fight over weather it's real.... You can say a carbon tax would just be misused and squandered (hell, I agree), but to think the ENTIRE scientific community are in league with Obamas secret agenda is the most ridiculous thing ANYONE has ever heard....oh and science isn't compartmentalized, believe it or not, they have the inter web too... :p



Ok, so this is pretty cut and dry, so no need for a long OP.


What if any effect will climate change have on the next ice age? Could we have accidentally, screwed up and mitigated the effects it might have? Might we actually keep the planet in a pretty temperate state, at least till after the next ice age ends?




posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 11:49 AM
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Many of the scientist that go along with global warming predicted that the arctic would be ice free by now, when in fact it has grown. So does that not make any discussion here no more than guessing? Especially when you ask that half the opinions "deniers" do not comment.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 11:57 AM
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I wonder why people keep mentioning a coming ice age, as long as summers are hot or hotter than normal, there are no signs of ice age, cold winters doesn't mean ice age, so no iceage on the way.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: Mianeye
I wonder why people keep mentioning a coming ice age, as long as summers are hot or hotter than normal, there are no signs of ice age, cold winters doesn't mean ice age, so no iceage on the way.


I guess your being sarcastic? Lol

We know there are periodic ice ages...



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 11:59 AM
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Climate change could be the start of the new ice age , as far as I'm aware there's evidence to show a brief period of warming before previous ice ages.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: Entreri06

originally posted by: Mianeye
I wonder why people keep mentioning a coming ice age, as long as summers are hot or hotter than normal, there are no signs of ice age, cold winters doesn't mean ice age, so no iceage on the way.


I guess your being sarcastic? Lol

We know there are periodic ice ages...


No, i'm not.

Iceage doesn't come over night, there are no signs of any ice age in the near future, it's a slow process.
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posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 12:11 PM
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 I would appriciate if any deniers would not participate. 

Hmmmm.
ETA: I am going to star any posts by deniers, even if they say something irrelevant.
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posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 12:54 PM
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There is no proof that man is changing the climate of the Earth.
So, no... AGW will not be preventing the next ice age, IMO.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
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There is no proof that man is changing the climate of the Earth.
So, no... AGW will not be preventing the next ice age, IMO.


There is tons, next time I am with my girlfriend I can go through the stacks of textbooks of evidence she scoured through for four years in environmental studies and geography and pick out some evidence for you.

To be frank, the reason why temperatures are 'rising' is because we are at the tail end of the last ice age, but core samples indicate that at around this time have shown that temperatures in patterns were not what we see today, the earth IS slowly heating up, and our carbon foot print isn't helping, it's making it worse.
We are not the problem, but we aren't making it better either, that is what scientists are trying to convey to the rest of the world, the media blows it all up in our faces and providing doom porn, or, saying the opposite.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 03:16 PM
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Climate change is normal, regular and irregular, natural and continuous, over and over, no matter what. To make it an issue is pointless.

It carved the continents, rivers, mountains and the land itself for the millions of years Earth has been here.

It hasn't stopped, can't stop and isn't going to stop. Its what Earth does. To make it an "issue" at all...is only for our benefit. "Poor us"! What are we going to do?

We're going to roll with the changes, because we can only...maybe...possibly...modify its frequency and intensity to a small degree.

Nonsense that everyone makes it an important oh-my-god issue. Its not. It will never stop, and we need to realize that. Droughts, upheavals, hurricanes, tectonic movements, severe weather changes, ice and heat cycles and everything else weather related.

To try and let man change the natural cycles is pointless. Roll with it because we have to. We need to change our thinking...not try and change the rythmn of Mother Earth.




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posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 03:21 PM
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originally posted by: Mianeye

originally posted by: Entreri06

originally posted by: Mianeye
I wonder why people keep mentioning a coming ice age, as long as summers are hot or hotter than normal, there are no signs of ice age, cold winters doesn't mean ice age, so no iceage on the way.


I guess your being sarcastic? Lol

We know there are periodic ice ages...


No, i'm not.

Iceage doesn't come over night, there are no signs of any ice age in the near future, it's a slow process.


Yes but, assuming science is right about CO2 levels equaling heat and 97% of scientists agree with that. Then that CO2 will still be here when the next one comes on. Weather it's in decades or millinia it's irrelevant. Hell we might already have started one but the CO2 levels are counteracting it.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 03:23 PM
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originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: Entreri06

Climate change is normal, regular and irregular, natural and continuous, over and over, no matter what. To make it an issue is pointless.

It carved the continents, rivers, mountains and the land itself for the millions of years Earth has been here.

It hasn't stopped, can't stop and isn't going to stop. Its what Earth does. To make it an "issue" at all...is only for our benefit. "Poor us"! What are we going to do?

We're going to roll with the changes, because we can only...maybe...possibly...modify its frequency and intensity to a small degree.

Nonsense that everyone makes it an important oh-my-god issue. Its not. It will never stop, and we need to realize that. Droughts, upheavals, hurricanes, tectonic movements, severe weather changes, ice and heat cycles and everything else weather related.

To try and let man change the natural cycles is pointless. Roll with it because we have to. We need to change our thinking...not try and change the rythmn of Mother Earth.





I don't think anyone would disagree that we can absolutely have a effect on climate. We could turn the earths surface to glass if we wanted. Let alone heat it up a bit and screw up the natural climate cycles.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 03:49 PM
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Agreed. Worrying over the natural Earth process of climate change is like wanting to change the position of the stars because we don't like where they are.

Or change the color of the oceans because we are tired of blue.

We can obviously do a tiny little bit to affect things...but in reality over the next thousands of years...we need to change...because the climate will be changing without stopping...and certainly with little regard to our comfort.



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