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I believe Artificial Intelligence will be the salvation of humanity.
originally posted by: Bluesma
I got started thinking about something, set off by another thread…poverty mentality.
It was amazingly hard for me to let go of my ideas. But reality wouldn’t budge, I could not deny it. I realized that all these beliefs were coping mechanisms that had been useful for me in the past, so that I did not feel jealous or bitter about having less. They were successful in that. But all coping mechanisms reach a point where they cease to be needed or effective, and become obstacles and sources of problem instead.
We consider that many things need maintenance- we brush our teeth, wash our hair, clean our house, cut our lawn…. But even our beliefs and thoughts need some maintenance from time to time. We need to take a look at what is worn out and needs to be thrown away, what needs to be replaced.
originally posted by: Baddogma
Poverty mentality is real... so is poverty reality, though.
It is true that mental state and expectations shape your reality to an extent not normally known by most.
However, I think there is a certain merit to not being selfish and not wanting abundance when so many are impoverished.
Perhaps we should concentrate on mutual need... and we wouldn't then experience the lavishness a few enjoy today, but we would have enough... for everyone... and then, in time, that "enough" would grow to "lavish" without a significant portion of the population daydreaming about guillotines.
ETA oh, and I liked the OP... taking a step back and just being aware in the "meta" sense is veeeery important... thinking about thinking and why... taking an inventory of the mental warehouse and the way the stuff is handled... heh.
originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe
a reply to: skunkape23
I don't have a real hard time believing that for some reason.
Either way... One thing is absolutely true -
Life is about much more than dollars and cents.
originally posted by: igloo
I am fighting another aspect of poverty mentality... was poor many years and also comfortable with it as I believed it made me live happily in the here and now, feeling love and being loved, rather than struggling with desire for things.
Recently I came into a job that pays well. I am by no means wealthy and work up to sixty hours a week, but in this impoverished town I worry that I stand out as we are building a new house. I can't shake the feeling that I have stepped out of my place in life. On the other hand, as the job only lasts another year or so, I see it as a blessing that has allowed me to give our kids a bit of a better life, buy the materials to build a super creative house, and just an all round break from worrying about not having rent money, food, etc. But poverty mentality is still haunting me in it's own way.
Fully agree that most wealthy folk are just normal, happy family people. Over the years I worked for a few and they were really cool, hard working and accepted me as equal.
originally posted by: learnatic
Hhhhmmmmm, you mean you had to be poor to think of these things? Sorry mate that sounds every bit like a sales pitch. I reckon I could spend as much time as you have reflecting on these things if I was rich and did'nt have to work.
Do the rich ever think how much dedication, mental stamina and energy it takes to work 5 days a week for 40 years, particularly when we only ever have negative motivation to drive ourselves with.
originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: Jamie1
Where did I say the cure for poverty was more poverty?
We have X amount of resources... the more successful in society gather more of those resources... fewer have access.
That is the model we have followed since one human learned to beat others and take their stuff.
I simply posit that mutually sharing those resources would result in that small % of successful humans having less luxuries and a vast % having more... at the least clothing, shelter and enough to eat. Not really communism, per se, but certainly an artificial enforced-informed sharing.
I think, and models have shown, that if more had more to start, then society as a whole benefits... general IQ is increased with better nutrition/stability ...with an even greater benefit for the previous hoarders of commodities getting to keep their respective heads upon their shoulders.