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originally posted by: Willtell
To answer this scientist directly I WOULD SAY THIS:
Sure what he describes is a cause and effect phenomenon that doesn’t have a God saying: “Peek a boo I'm here”
What he describes is a CONTEXT for life. Wonderful
Still he says life needs this or that to be such as closeness to the sun.
Well it matters that some design or circumstances have been evolved bringing all the elements at the right time and place for Life and those contexts are still mysterious and unfathomable by science because you’ll always run into an unknown in examining psychical phenomenon.
That unknown or unseen IS GOD
THAT IS GOD!
originally posted by: lostbook
Interesting.....Your statement remind me of something I learned doing Statistical Math in college. In Statistics Math there is no absolute zero, instead you have what's called the "empty set." I always thought of the empty set as God; something's that's always there; the place-holder for life where everything starts. Same as your unknown or unseen, same as Space; there but not there...I know it sounds crazy.
originally posted by: Jamie1
a reply to: lostbook
I'm a scientist. I don't believe in fairy tales.
But this "theory" shows nothing. He's saying there's a thermodynamic model that explains life started.
No kidding.
We're here, right? It has nothing to do with God, or not having a God, or whether or not space aliens created us.
originally posted by: Willtell
My point is that these scientists and their discoveries are in a sense finding God but the fact that they reject the SPIRIT means they don’t even realize that they may be finding God!
They lack understanding AND true context of their own work.
They will not even benefit from their own work
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: lostbook
The entire premise is based on faulty logic that presumes all these highly convenient things which support his so called theory, just sprang into existence, and also follow highly law abiding processes, are just doing a perfect job of self sustainment all by themselves, even though they all must follow some magical predetermined set of rules, which are also just magically there by themselves, and continue following laws and rules that nobody made because the universe just made itself and everything in it, and it all just keeps on going because nature automatically created itself too, and it keeps going by itself too because, well, it just happened? And finally this guy just figured it all out? How wonderful!
In essence, he’s saying, life itself evolved out of simpler non-living systems.