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Mount Holyoke students say ‘black on black’ crime doesn’t exist

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posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 12:47 PM
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interesting statistics from the FBI....

Murder




posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80


Read the article that is sourced in your op.
Cause it gives the context of the flash cards.
They are not saying the crime doesn't happen, just that to label it is wrong.



This has been roundly ignored...

& I can only assume that's true because it doesn't fit the agenda of the thread.



And the usual talking heads have appeared to propagate the myth is more important than our protectors killing us.

Clearly putting the crimes of thugs on par with the crimes of those sworn to protect.


These types of threads & the propagators within drag ATS through the mud.


(post by RoScoLaz4 removed for a manners violation)

posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Ya that it proves the point of what the kids were trying to say in the flash cards?

That whites commit crimes on whites at damn near the same rate that black people commit crimes on black people?

Or can you gives more then one sentence.

And don't forget your emojis



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 01:16 PM
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Well, OP, you stepped in it. If there's one bit of ignorance you are never supposed to deny on ATS, or America for that matter, it's racial bs. Now just stop speaking the truth, apologize to everyone and slink back to your KKK enclave with your tail between your legs.

Seriously, OP, it is a lost cause on here. The only acceptable position currently is this;

Whites are all racist.
The system is racist and rigged against blacks.
If an African American does commit a crime it is not their fault, it's due to institutionalized racism.
If you notice race as a factor, you are a racist.

Live by these rules and you may survive.



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: hammanderr


Whites are all racist. The system is racist and rigged against blacks. If an African American does commit a crime it is not their fault, it's due to institutionalized racism. If you notice race as a factor, you are a racist.


Please direct me to the replies that say anything remotely like you described.

The system is rigged against all of us my friend, the sooner we stop letting it divide us into categories the better.



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 01:27 PM
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The racial divide or any divisiveness, whether it be gender, sexual orientation, religious affiliation, national origin are contrived mechanisms of social control. This is why gangs are covertly encouraged in prisons to keep the proles separate, fighting amongst themselves and not joining together grabbing pitchforks and torches and storming the Bastille of social inequity. It is time we all realized that we are ONE race, the HUMAN race and synchronize our collective consciousness toward total love and create a new world, a new reality and perhaps a new universe.

Feel the latter idea for a moment, savor it and come to the realization of the unfathomable beautiful possibilities. How quickly our civilization could advance and how soon we would be welcomed into the bosom of Cosmic citizenship. Namaste.



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: BestinShow


Is it just me or do these look like they were made by 6th graders..?

The content of the cards definitely supports my suspicions.


They do look very immature, you can tell because they used liquid glue instead of glue sticks. That's what causes the rippling effect on the paper. lol



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 01:40 PM
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I think, I don't blame the students for thinking this. Media supports the idea that black on black crime is not as important as white on black crime. Media also supports the idea that black on white crime isn't as important.

They are only relaying what they've been told. However, I found through a politifact article (that sourced their numbers back to the CDCs statistics) that 93% of murder victims are murdered by a person of their own race. That being said, according to the CDC, black people between the age of 15-24s leading cause of death is homicide, followed by accidents in second place, and suicide in third. Black people between the ages of 25-34 also have a leading cause of death being homicide, accidents in second place, and disease of the heart in third place. www.politifact.com...


And that's just on high end of crime. What about theft, rape, assault, and drug dealing (in no particular order, or reasoning. Just stating other crimes.) Are those crimes also a race to same race crime most of the time? If so, I'd say that there is even more black on black crime outside of that.


The thing is, white on white crime, black on black crime, and black on white crime doesn't cause as much hysteria as white on black crime does.


edit on 3-1-2015 by Lyxdeslic because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 01:47 PM
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originally posted by: CagliostroTheGreat
a reply to: Jamie1

I fear you have missed (or misconstrued) my point. I made no mention of crimes and/or punishments, simply intent. In that I mean violence committed with the sole intent of inflicting harm on a member of a perceived inferior race specifically when the aggressor harbors racial bias. I hope I have made my meaning more clear.

We're all just humans here.



Yeah, I got what you were saying.

A guy ends up in the hospital because two guys punch him in the face and steal his backpack.
Same guy goes to the hospital because two guys punch him in the face because they think he is an inferior race.

So what's your point, if it's not about how to punish the criminals differently?



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 01:50 PM
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posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 02:05 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Sremmos80


Read the article that is sourced in your op.
Cause it gives the context of the flash cards.
They are not saying the crime doesn't happen, just that to label it is wrong.



This has been roundly ignored...

& I can only assume that's true because it doesn't fit the agenda of the thread.



And the usual talking heads have appeared to propagate the myth is more important than our protectors killing us.

Clearly putting the crimes of thugs on par with the crimes of those sworn to protect.


These types of threads & the propagators within drag ATS through the mud.


I understand the intent of the flash cards, and the claim that the label "black on black" violence is a myth.

Only problem is, it's not a myth. Black on black violence kills more blacks by I'm guessing at least a factor of 10 than cops killing blacks, but nobody was burning down Chicago over the 353 blacks that were shot and killed there in 2014.

Maybe if these students focused their attention on the problems of blacks actually being murdered instead of how those murders are being "labeled" it might be more productive, right?



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: Jamie1

Like this?


It's just another myth that black people don't protest violence within the community...


& it's propagated by the usual talking heads, who have no inclination to research it, or dare I say admit it.


Happy New Year! Not For Some Though!
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posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: Jamie1

 


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A star for your comment removed by censorship. Who knows, it may have been a sign pointing to the key to unlocking nirvana for someone? Now they will never know. This Black on black crime thread's greater purpose may have been diverted?
edit on 3-1-2015 by HUMBLEONE because: Oh a wise guy eh? Whats the big idea? nuk. nuk. nuk



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 05:06 PM
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context context context

You should just go ahead and tell us all how you really feel before you get removed.

It does not take long before a persons true self emerges and mods catch on pretty quick.

yes you are crafty at spinning and baiting but where is the beef here?

You use one sign without context to make what point exactly?



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

How can you argue a point you know to be a falsehood? Whatever criteria you use to measure crime in your head does not apply to real world statistics and facts. Official functionaries record this data as it comes in. People witness it. People suffer because of it. There may come a day when the label of race is not included in any sort of government censor or record. That day is not today and you are, in fact, fanning the flame you bemoan with a vigor that I rarely see.

This little project presented in the OP has a right to be criticized. If you believe criticism equals race baiting than nothing more needs to be said.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: Jamie1

It's hard to make judgements on what is effectively a picture of a kids' display about social issues. We don't know the context. Perhaps it is being used as a discussion point or a way for kids to share misconceptions.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: deadeyedick
context context context

You should just go ahead and tell us all how you really feel before you get removed.

It does not take long before a persons true self emerges and mods catch on pretty quick.

yes you are crafty at spinning and baiting but where is the beef here?

You use one sign without context to make what point exactly?


Just what I was thinking about the context. It seems like more of a rant to me which is fine I guess, it's just that there's a suitable forum for that. I'm not sure what the point is either as without context we're just wasting our time here. There's bigger social issues we can discuss.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 09:11 AM
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originally posted by: daftpink


a reply to: Jamie1

It's hard to make judgements on what is effectively a picture of a kids' display about social issues. We don't know the context. Perhaps it is being used as a discussion point or a way for kids to share misconceptions.


Yes, we know the exact context.

Protesters burned down Ferguson because the GJ found there was not sufficient reason to indict a white cop for killing a black guy.

Some people pointed out the absurdity of this, especially since there are hundreds of black kids being shot and killed by blacks, and nobody is protesting that FACT.

The protesters became offended that anybody bring this point up. They became offended when some dared to say that all lives matter instead of "black lives matter."

The zealous student activists ran with this meme, and like the good little party members they are trained to be, began promoting the meme of the day, "Black on Black Crime is a Myth."


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posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 09:16 AM
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Does white on white crime exist?

It's sure never reported as such.



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