The Satanic Medal of Honor?

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posted on Dec, 13 2004 @ 07:54 PM
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Has anyone else noticed that the Medal of Honor, the most prestigious award you can receive in the military, is an upside-down pentagram? I know the pentagram is a symbol of protection and is not always "satanic", persay, but an I've never seen an inverted pentagram used for anything but so-called "evil" rituals and such. Why would this highest of awards be an inverted pentagram?


Here's a picture of a Medal of Honor, although it's not the best quality:

www.173abnbde.setaf.army.mil...


I've also noticed that the symbol for the Armed Forces Network, (the military's TV channel), is contains an upside down five-pointed star, although it's not inside of a circle. Not to mention the pentagon is a shape created within an inverted pentagram. Why does the military seem to love upside down pentagrams?




posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 02:43 AM
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Why does the military seem to love upside down pentagrams?


Damn good question. Ive noticed this myself (not the medal of honor though) and I think its highly suspect. Usage of various symbols, especially inverted, can be very powerful from what Ive read. The fact that US military (and possibly others) seem obsessed with them aint a good thing.

The Nazis inverted the ancient swastika symbol to create the "hooked cross"(?) - and I guess everyone feels the (negative) power associated with it.



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 04:08 AM
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The US started using the Metal of Honor during the Civil War.

EDIT: The Navy's Medal of Honor was the first approved and the first designed. The initial work was done by the Philadelphia Mint at the request of Secretary of the Navy Gideon Welles. The Mint submitted several designs for consideration, and the one prepared by the Philadelphia firm of William Wilson & Sons was the design selected.

The selected Medal of Honor design consisted of an INVERTED, 5-pointed STAR. On each of the five points was a cluster of LAUREL leaves to represent victory, mixed with a cluster of OAK to represent strength. Surrounding the encircled insignia were 34 stars, equal to the number of stars in the U.S. Flag at the time....one star for each state of the Union including the 11 Confederate states.

Inside the circle of 34 stars were engraved two images. To the right is the image of Minerva, the Roman goddess of wisdom and war. On her helmet is perched an owl, representing WISDOM. In keeping with the Roman tradition, her left hand holds a bundle of rods and an ax blade, symbolic of authority. The shield in her right hand is the shield of the Union of our states (similar to the shield on our seal and other important emblems.)

Recoiling from Minerva is a man clutching snakes in his hands. He represented DISCORD and the insignia came to be known as "Minerva Repulsing Discord". Taken in the context of the Civil War soldiers and sailors struggling to overcome the discord of the states and preserve the Union, the design was as fitting as it was symbolic.

www.medalofhonor.com...



[edit on 14-12-2004 by zerotime]



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 04:13 AM
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Military = Killing Others

Killing Others = Evil

Evil = Satanism

I think an upside down pentagram would go hand in hand with the highest honor of killing others.



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 04:27 AM
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Killing others = Evil. That is ludicrous, so if i killed a person that was about to kill me I'm evil?



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 04:45 AM
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Originally posted by Titan007
Killing others = Evil. That is ludicrous, so if i killed a person that was about to kill me I'm evil?





Sorry I didn't put every last variable available into my simple equations. But nice job taking it out of context to dilute the message. Obviously, self defense is not evil. I erroneously assumed that people able to surf the internet and post messages would know this.

Plus evil is relative. Pretty much any action can be interpreted as good, evil or neutral depending on who is interpreting.



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 06:33 AM
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You guys in the US are not alone here`s a pic of our police force badge in Western Australia in the top right corner

www.police.wa.gov.au...



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 07:25 AM
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You people are nutters. Can you not tell the difference between basic shapes?

Shall I start the preschool lesson?

This is a "TRIANGLE":


And this is what's known as a "CIRCLE" (don't be confused because it's inside a "SQUARE"):





Thus, the first lesson endth.



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by ShadowHasNoSource
Military = Killing Others

Killing Others = Evil

Evil = Satanism


Military = Self defense and protecting lives

Protecting Lives = High Honor

High Honor = Medal of Honor



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by DeltaNine
You people are nutters. Can you not tell the difference between basic shapes?

Shall I start the preschool lesson?

This is a "TRIANGLE":

And this is what's known as a "CIRCLE" (don't be confused because it's inside a "SQUARE"):



Thus, the first lesson endth.



And? The medal is still a pentagram!



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 07:38 AM
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I laugh in your face.



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by ShadowHasNoSource
Military = Killing Others

Killing Others = Evil

Evil = Satanism


Military = Self defense and protecting lives

Protecting Lives = High Honor

High Honor = Medal of Honor



If only that were true. Seriously, I would be immensely grateful if the U.S. military was at home protecting us. But alas, they are busy with orders to terrorize people that had nothing to do with the attack. And they are becoming increasingly disgruntled by their task. Just read a story about a soldier that had his arm blown off. He was released from Fort Hood but ended up owing the military money. The man doesn't have enough money for gas to get home to his wife. This is honor? I feel for our soldiers and wish they were home. And if I had the money I would send it to this man so he can see his wife. I'm sorry, but how can any soldier feel any honor after the way the are treated. I think the feeling would more resemble betrayal.

Edit: And if there is no honor at the highest ranks where can it come from?

[edit on 12-14-2004 by ShadowHasNoSource]



posted on Dec, 15 2004 @ 05:20 AM
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With regards to the medal of honour, you have to also look at the design from the viewers perspective.

What if it is designed in the same manner as a nurses watch, ie for the wearer to view.

In this instance the pentegram would be a sign of protection...

which is probably the context of the act performed to earn the medal.

Honestly guys, you lot can find evil in even the most honourable things, any normal person wouldn't even look for it in such a prestigous award.



posted on Dec, 15 2004 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Bondi
With regards to the medal of honour, you have to also look at the design from the viewers perspective.

What if it is designed in the same manner as a nurses watch, ie for the wearer to view.

In this instance the pentegram would be a sign of protection...

which is probably the context of the act performed to earn the medal.

Honestly guys, you lot can find evil in even the most honourable things, any normal person wouldn't even look for it in such a prestigous award.


Bondi! Long time, no see! The last time you argued one of my posts was...a long time ago. Glad to see you're back.

However, I must ask you: If the Medal of Honor was, indeed, made to be viewed by the wearer, (unlike any other military medal that I know of), then why aren't the other aspects of the medal upside down? And doesn't it seem a little strange that in order for you to make the symbol not sinister you have to say, "Well, flip it upside down and it's okay." Not to mention, you usually don't wear a Medal of Honor, because if you're still alive when you receive it, (which practically nobody alive has ever received the Medal of Honor), you probably put it in a case for display, and you probably would not display it upside down, now would you?

[edit on 15/12/04 by an3rkist]



posted on Dec, 15 2004 @ 10:48 AM
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DeltaNine: You can just read the official description of the metal from metalofhonor.com that I posted above. Again, it calls the metal an "inverted five pointed star" - their own words not mine or anyone elses posting here. An inverted five pointed star is the basic form of a pentagram. Now, I'm not saying that this metal was designed to be evil but these are accurate physical descriptions of the metal itself. If you also do a google search on "inverted five pointed star" almost every link will be occult related including links to Freemasons who probably had a hand in the design of the metal.

www.mastersjewel.com...



posted on Dec, 15 2004 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by zerotime
If you also do a google search on "inverted five pointed star" almost every link will be occult related including links to Freemasons who probably had a hand in the design of the metal.

www.mastersjewel.com...


Ah, the Masons, I hadn't considered that. I'm glad you brought that up. That definitely gives me something to think about.

Bondi, I know you have an argument for that Mason comment. You might not be a Mason, (or you might be), but you seem to love to argue about them! Lemme hear it!



posted on Dec, 16 2004 @ 03:58 AM
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Originally posted by an3rkist
Bondi! Long time, no see! The last time you argued one of my posts was...a long time ago. Glad to see you're back.


Why thank you, but surely you are mistaken, I do not argue !!!!


However, I must ask you: If the Medal of Honor was, indeed, made to be viewed by the wearer,


Too be honest it was just a thought, same as the designer may not of been aware what an upturned pentagram symbolises to the occult followers etc, is another thought and possibility, some people really don't know this sort of stuff


then why aren't the other aspects of the medal upside down?


Maybe there is a little something for the wearer and a little something for the person looking at the



And doesn't it seem a little strange that in order for you to make the symbol not sinister you have to say, "Well, flip it upside down and it's okay."


The shape of the pentegram was first used by plotting the course of venus wasn;t it, which gave the image of a rotating pentegram if I am not mistaken, which of course is always a possibility.


Not to mention, you usually don't wear a Medal of Honor, because if you're still alive when you receive it...you probably put it in a case for display, and you probably would not display it upside down, now would you?


In which case I would say the medal is to show honour, and not to display the signs and symbols of the occult, as it is not put on display. Pointless to subliminally advertise something that is not seen



posted on Dec, 16 2004 @ 04:22 AM
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Originally posted by an3rkist
Bondi, I know you have an argument for that Mason comment. You might not be a Mason, (or you might be), but you seem to love to argue about them! Lemme hear it!


It's an opinion, not an arguement, whether I am a mason or not.

Things are a little different in the UK compared to America. With the larger population you get more of the eccentric types, live and breath one thing and nothing else matters.

This is one reason I don't argue, I try a relay how it happens it hear, and that because something happens in USA doesn't mean that is how it operates/happens etc everywhere.

As you know I will defend the mason's, but that is due to my experience of them, the key word being experience. The majority of people who continually repeat the same old drivel, which you have to admit it is always the same old crap, have never met, been involved, or had any kind of linkage with Freemasonry. They just repeat stuff someone esle has said or written. However this thread is not about Freemasonry and therefore I will not conitune on the subject.

Although as a tangent to your subject have you tried looking into the symbology of any other groups/trends etc and seen if you can find that any where?

I hear playschool (the TV program) uses Squares, Circles and even a Hexagon
that's a joke before anyone thinks I am taking the pi$$, ensuring the mood stays light and the posts keep coming..

[edit on 16/12/2004 by Bondi]



posted on Dec, 16 2004 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by ShadowHasNoSource
Military = Killing Others

Killing Others = Evil

Evil = Satanism

I think an upside down pentagram would go hand in hand with the highest honor of killing others.
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Hmmmm, Well what about the Killings in the Name of God? Or God Did, every Egyptian First born , Baby Killers ? I guess that is pretty eveil huh?

Or is Killing the Bad ok? Should Hilter have been left alone to take over Europe because killing is bad? Your Simple equation has a few flaws.

If only real life was so 1+1 I guess thats why there is Trig.



posted on Dec, 16 2004 @ 11:05 AM
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To take something as basic as a shape and put that much meaning to it requires a lot of faith. For example, a single circle is sometimes used to represent God because it has no beginning and end. That was the basis for other variations but it is not true that whenever you see any circle it was put there to represent God. I think it's best to look at the bigger picture in order to discern intent.

In order for a symbol to mean anything, there must be someone who made it for the purpose of conveying the message to somebody else who understands it. If it's not understood by anyone, then it has no meaning. For example, the cross for Christians. Before Christ it meant nothing to those who followed God. Afterwards, it was a quick easy reminder.

Satanic symbols are abound with detail, representing broken crosses, bastardized circles, sexual connotations, and of course, representatives of their lord Satan himself. Not saying I've seen all, but have seen many in a tutorial from a Satanic friend.

[edit on 16-12-2004 by saint4God]





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