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I believe it's the objective of one of the greatest social engineering plots ever. We have become an entertainment focused nation. The world has becomed so jacked up, that it's much easier to turn on mind numbing television than address anything. It's too much work to sift through all the deception and political crap. It's too much work to research candidates and their voting histories and to get out and vote.
The point is, that so long as there is cable TV, Xbox, DVD's, theaters, Facebook, and mind numbing internet (Youtube cat videos), there will be no revolution.
originally posted by: engineercutout
a reply to: orangetom1999
Thanks, orangetom, I'd tend to agree with you. I wish I couldn't, but it is the sad truth. I suppose I should echo your point about the personal economic nature of this issue. Guns or no, when the cost of rebellion becomes cheaper than the cost of continuing to labor uder the oppressive yolk, you will see rebellion, unless we can be sufficiently distracted. I suspect we might be close to the edge, if not for the myriad of marvelous distractions available. You don't have to look too hard to find someone dissatisfied with the present nature of our government. I suspect that behind the words of some who are posting about the "apathy" of our people, and how it will "never happen", you will find disappointment at the fact that it hasn't happened yet. Be careful, people! Once we open this door, we may not find it so easy to close again. The wrong kind of revolution could be worse than no revolution at all.
The Declaration Of Independence, one of our oldest legal documents, has alot of wisdom to bring to this topic. Anyone onto this thought train who is not familiar with it should take a few minutes and give it a quick study. Our founding fathers summed it up right there better than orangetom or I ever could, more than two centuries ago.
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
My main topic of this thread is are the guns in the 2nd amendment for overthrowing the government?
-That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Is America destined for a revolution due to the right to bear arms?
Would you be willing to give up your guns and change the 2nd amendment to avoid such a destiny for future generations?
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: DrJunk
You would need to amend the Constitution. You cant repeal the 2nd Amendment
And though the past has it's share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it's protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey
The spirit was freedom and justice
And it's keepers seem generous and kind
It's leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind
'Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin'
The cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand
America where are you now?
Don't you care about your sons and daughters?
Don't you know we need you now?
We can't fight alone against the monster
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You never know they may change the constitution. .
originally posted by: cavtrooper7
My go to response for all of these...www.bob-owens.com...
Let me explain, gun grabbers, how your confiscatory fantasy plays out. Let us imagine for a moment that a sweeping gun control bill similar to the one currently suggested is passed by the House and Senate, and signed into law by a contemptuous President.
Perhaps 50-100 million firearms currently owned by law-abiding citizens will become contraband with the stroke of a pen. Citizens will either register their firearms, or turn them in to agents of the federal government, or risk becoming criminals themselves. Faced with this choice, millions will indeed register their arms. Perhaps as many will claim they’ve sold their arms, or had them stolen. Suppose that as many as 200-250 million weapons of other types will go unregistered.
Tens of millions of Americans will refuse to comply with an order that is clearly a violation of the explicit intent of the Second Amendment. Among the most ardent opposing these measures will be military veterans, active duty servicemen, and local law enforcement officers. Many of these individuals will refuse to carry out what they view as Constitutionally illegal orders. Perhaps 40-50 million citizens will view such a law as treason. Perhaps ten percent of those, 4-5 million, would support a rebellion in some way, and maybe 40,000-100,000 Americans will form small independently-functioning active resistance cells, or become lone-wolves.