Prince Andrew named in Pedophile case....Royal Family becoming EXPOSED!!!

a reply to: daftpink

The issue is that most of the general public are far from educated about such matters, they refuse to believe it exists then try excusing it away when it is told to them, further insulting the victims by insinuations of willingness and lies.

The obvious conspiracy question is there, are the elite controlling the media FOR such purposes?

The elite backed media is all for the moral demise of youth, short skirts, plastic surgery, porn star poses, terrible role models etc and also the media is responsible for the dumbing down of the nation. People are more preoccupied with the latest gadget /game/ rivalry to give a damn about the corruptness of society and most are involved in it somehow as their vocation and they don't want to jeapordise that, so they shut their eyes and pretend it isn't there when it so clearly is.

If they opened their eyes they would have to admit plenty of home truths and evaluate their lives in ways they do not want to as they might just realise they are part of the problem.

originally posted by: Ridhya
Seriously, I am exasperated by the victim-blaming and apathy and excuses put forth by people on this site... or the myriad of ways people bend over backwards to make light of serious problems.

I agree completely and have been laughed at for calling some of the attitudes shocking.

Makes me wonder how many of the posters in this thread are actually genuine members of ATS or are they part of the spin machine to distract and quash the seriousness of this issue.

No offence to genuine members who just happen to have a differing opinion to me but I see these fake profiles on twitter all the time, bit harder to spot in forums.

Social engineering is a HUGELY effective tool used by the organisers of these crimes to throw people off the scent by derailing valid threads like this one.

Just saying, be aware people.

We now have 4 threads running on ATS about Andrew and all he did was sleep with a hooker all them years ago

So what, big deal or is he the only man who's paid for sex or turned a blind eye when a hooker was provided at a party.

You should go after the politicians who were only allowed to rise up the party ladder if TPTB had blackmail materal on them because half of them had sex with children as young as ten and they are the ones that need to go to jail, not Andrew

a reply to: VirusGuard

all he did was sleep with a hooker all them years ago

That comment shows that you either have not read this thread and/or are being deliberatly ignorant to the facts.


How about we just go after the people who are alleged to have committed these crimes irrespective as to whether they are royalty, politicians, bankers or chimney sweeps.

And yes, we do still have chimney sweeps here... They sing and dance up and down our streets with their mucky faces and cheerful cockney dittys every Sunday morning while we sip tea and spread butter on our crumpets.

We try to keep it a secret from you yanks though, as we know what will happen, you will poach them for yourselves with promises of riches, fame and naked ladies; like you have with all of our good acts in the past.

Where did that come from? lol

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

Very well said. To me it is obvious but I do admit that is down to my eyes being opened over the last 15 years and hearing stories from victims like the girl making this claim which have led me to personally research this stuff.

originally posted by: VirusGuard
We now have 4 threads running on ATS about Andrew and all he did was sleep with a hooker all them years ago

So what, big deal or is he the only man who's paid for sex or turned a blind eye when a hooker was provided at a party.

You should go after the politicians who were only allowed to rise up the party ladder if TPTB had blackmail materal on them because half of them had sex with children as young as ten and they are the ones that need to go to jail, not Andrew

This is not strictly the case. One thread is about the story coming out, one is about the Uk mainstream media "choosing" not to discuss it on TV, another(started by myself) is asking if any members want to contact me privatley to discuss some ideas I have regarding the links to historic events without getting sidetracked with personal opinion and argument. The other I have not seen so can not comment.

I would have thought with your exaspeation at the situation you would have been able to grasp the basis of the situation given the amount of threads about it but it seems you have been unable to do so.

a reply to: nonspecific

I would agree. I have seen three of the four threads mentioned and found them all to be valid discussions about separate points on this issue.

The implications of these revelations are so huge there are going to be sub topics that develop. Don't see the harm it's very healthy and is the purpose of ATS.

As long as they can stick to there different aspects I think it helps retain clarity with so many variables.

at least it's not gone all ebola with every other thread a different news report saying the same thing.

a reply to: daftpink

You know what, its obvious.

If you knowingly:
> Hang around with a convicted peadophile.
> Go to a party to celebrate that paedophiles release.
> Have massages at the same location where the convicted paedophile abused his victims.

Then you are gonna get tarred with the same brush.

Its that simple!

On another note:-

The idea of having a Queen or King or Prince or Princess is an insult to any intelligent person

They are certainly not my "Betters" and prove this constantly

Now if a Queen or King truly stood for what they claim to represent
They would be both noble and honourable rather than Charlatans clinging on by the seat of their pants to a childish illusion

It's all silly hats and pomposity in reality

the Duke of York may have immunity from prosecution for his alleged involvement

His return comes as it emerged the Duke of York may have immunity from prosecution for his alleged involvement in the crimes committed by his billionaire sex offender friend Jeffrey Epstein under a deal with the US government. The secret plea agreement with American prosecutors struck in 2007 protects Epstein, along with any of his 'co-conspirators' from a number of criminal charges relating to an alleged international sex trafficking ring set up for the rich and famous. Details of the 'non-prosecution' agreement obtained by Epstein through his 'significant social and political connections' came after Prince Andrew made a robust rebuttal of the allegations by Virginia Roberts that she was forced to have sex with the Duke of York when she was only 17. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... overnment.html#ixzz3NssQh9oO Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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a reply to: Stormdancer777

Yeah read that today too. Are we at all surprised?

So they all knew...they all knew this would happen, and even although they think they have immunity, this is as good as an admission of guilt. I feel a bit sick.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
the Duke of York may have immunity from prosecution for his alleged involvement

His return comes as it emerged the Duke of York may have immunity from prosecution for his alleged involvement in the crimes committed by his billionaire sex offender friend Jeffrey Epstein under a deal with the US government. The secret plea agreement with American prosecutors struck in 2007 protects Epstein, along with any of his 'co-conspirators' from a number of criminal charges relating to an alleged international sex trafficking ring set up for the rich and famous. Details of the 'non-prosecution' agreement obtained by Epstein through his 'significant social and political connections' came after Prince Andrew made a robust rebuttal of the allegations by Virginia Roberts that she was forced to have sex with the Duke of York when she was only 17. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... overnment.html#ixzz3NssQh9oO Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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Alan Dershowitz who is named by the same accuser has laid down the gauntlet in a public broadcast against the accuser and her lawyers.

He has waived any Statute of Limitations, waived any and all privilege, has challenged the lawyers, the law firm and the accuser to accuse him in public. He has called out her lawyers as being party to a claim they know not to be true and to be doing for the money - a claim that is Slanderous if not true. They have specifically declined to repeat the claims.

Dershowitz has outlined a number of false accusations this accuser has made against public figures in the past. All cases that where proven to be untrue, or dismissed in their entirety. This same accuser has accused Prime Ministers, Presidents, Royals and celebrities. All without success.

He also details all five times he has been in the company of the Prince, and who else was in attendance.

Dershowitz is on record saying that this woman, with the support of her lawyers, have put back the case of all women who HAVE been raped and are reluctant to go forward.

It looks like her and her lawyers tried to Greenmail the wrong lawyer.

a reply to: Leonidas

Would a guy who was guilty do this?.
Looks like to me If she doesn't do it she is lying and If she lied about him who else is she lying about eh?.

originally posted by: daftpink

originally posted by: WarminIndy

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originally posted by: Tangerine

originally posted by: daftpink

originally posted by: liteonit6969
a reply to: stumason

What do you mean embarrassing? It isnt just sex.....it is rape...sex slave. This was without consent and is a crime. Anyone else would be in custody. I am sure alot more is going to come to light. I also remember that epstein had tried to hide his links to the Prince, now i see why.
Also Epstein has been linked to abusing children and thus by association Prince Andrew will be too. Thats why to attempt to cut ties and hide all.

Thank god someone finally speaking sense. Quite shocked at the blasé attitudes of MOST commenters on here.

This isn't a party where a girl had 1 too many drinks. She was used abused raped and tossed around parties as a sex slave by some of the most powerful men in the country.

Speaking out about these crimes is incredibly difficult and attitudes like the people on here are the reason why these victims stay quiet.

This is happening.

The truth is coming to the surface.

Please respect victims of rape and human trafficking sex slaves. It is rife and goes right up to the elite highest ranking powerful people.

Dismissing it in this way is utterly shocking and not what i thought I'd see on ATS.

No, she SAID that happened. It has not yet been proven to be true. Or would you prefer that we go directly from accusation to conviction and skip the hard evidence part?

Of course not and yes I should have put the word 'said' in my comment. But the rest of what I said was mostly aimed at the people who are belittling the accusations and immediately jumping to the conclusion that the girls in question are lying. It, sadly, is more likely that there is some truth in the story, given the extent of it linking to so many other factors about the sex slave child abuse revelations that continue to come out.

They are being revealed solely due to the VICTIMS of the said crimes, along with witnesses. I just feel that if an ATS member happened to be one of those victims (could happen) and read some of the comments here they would definitely be put off speaking up about their tragic story.

I wouldn't like to encourage that.

This is a case of "he said, she said". She has no DNA evidence. And she will have to prove she even knew Epstein. Sorry, unless she can prove it, you have to admit that it is shaky right now.

This supposedly happened in Florida, so if it happened in Florida then she can only have him tried in Florida.

See, she was already involved in an illegal operation, if she were a prostitute. Florida doesn't have legal prostitution. The defense better be finding some evidence.

As with many other people on here you are missing the point completely. Not prostitute but SEX SLAVE who was raped. There is a huge difference. Your ignorance isn't my responsibility.

You're missing the point. She ALLEGES that she was a sex slave. Apparently, she has a history of making false allegations against many people. That does not rule out the possibility that her current allegations have foundation but it does diminish the likelihood.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
the Duke of York may have immunity from prosecution for his alleged involvement

His return comes as it emerged the Duke of York may have immunity from prosecution for his alleged involvement in the crimes committed by his billionaire sex offender friend Jeffrey Epstein under a deal with the US government. The secret plea agreement with American prosecutors struck in 2007 protects Epstein, along with any of his 'co-conspirators' from a number of criminal charges relating to an alleged international sex trafficking ring set up for the rich and famous. Details of the 'non-prosecution' agreement obtained by Epstein through his 'significant social and political connections' came after Prince Andrew made a robust rebuttal of the allegations by Virginia Roberts that she was forced to have sex with the Duke of York when she was only 17. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... overnment.html#ixzz3NssQh9oO Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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He hasn't been charged with a crime and hasn't even been sued. You seem to be assuming that he's guilty. Based on what evidence?

originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
a reply to: daftpink

The issue is that most of the general public are far from educated about such matters, they refuse to believe it exists then try excusing it away when it is told to them, further insulting the victims by insinuations of willingness and lies.

The obvious conspiracy question is there, are the elite controlling the media FOR such purposes?

The elite backed media is all for the moral demise of youth, short skirts, plastic surgery, porn star poses, terrible role models etc and also the media is responsible for the dumbing down of the nation. People are more preoccupied with the latest gadget /game/ rivalry to give a damn about the corruptness of society and most are involved in it somehow as their vocation and they don't want to jeapordise that, so they shut their eyes and pretend it isn't there when it so clearly is.

If they opened their eyes they would have to admit plenty of home truths and evaluate their lives in ways they do not want to as they might just realise they are part of the problem.

Name the person on this board who has claimed that sex trafficking does not happen. Name the person on this board who is possession of hard evidence proving that Prince Andrew participated in sex trafficking who denies it.

Perhaps you have some re-evaluating to do, yourself.

She may be telling the truth about this round of sexual misconduct, but she has a track record of accusing Prime Ministers, at least one US President and other public figures. All refuted conclusively by third party evidence.

It appears as though, with the support of some dubious lawyers, she is taking another swing at some low-hanging fruit again...hoping that THIS time, she will get a pay-day.

I doubt we will ever get to the truth of this

As for false allegations ... Here is another perspective

Perhaps she and her lawyers failed to prove her claims adequately ...
Rich and powerful people "Get away with murder"