Will 2015 be the year when the final Antichrist rises and makes himself known?

a reply to: zardust

The Beast is real, and so is the Anti-Christ. It is not some kind of philosophical construct, but an actual being. The Beast of Revelation is the religion of Islam. Educate yourself, and forget about the easter-mysticism. If your going to believe in Biblical exposition, then do so. But don't take other people's ideals about what this reality is, take God's. God says that the Anti-Christ is a person, not a 'feeling in your gut.'

I think the Antichrist is already amongst us , it's not a person but an ideology.

a reply to: DPrice

Keep telling yourself that. Perhaps one day, you'll believe it.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

There is a beast, no doubt. More important, there is also a beast slayer.

Since the time of Adam and Eve, haven't all humans been born with the knowledge of good and evil? In other words, don't we all have both the seed of the Christ nature as well as a seed of the anti-christ nature when we are born?

Isn't that what our struggle is as individuals? Which seed is taking root and growing?

And wouldn't this be a collective struggle considering we being many are one?

a reply to: works4dhs

there have already been antiChrist types--the Pharoh that had Jewish boys thrown in the river, Haman that tried to kill the Jews in Esther, Herod that ordered infants killed in the gospels, and Hitler, all evil leaders who sought to destroy the Jewish people. Bible prophecies a specific antiChrist at the end 'THE man of perdition' in 2 Thess 2:3.

The man of perdition is a many membered man. There are only two men. You are either part of Anti-Christ or you are part of Christ. All this means is you either are allowing love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, etc to be replicated in you (proven by what you do and say)or you're part of the anti-Christ allowing hate, impatience, greed, etc to be manifested thru you (again proven by what you say and do).

Every story, event, and book of the bible says that. It's the central pattern beginning with Genesis when God divided the light from the darkness, or Abel, Cain & Seth, or Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

This great battle of Armageddon is where the light eliminates the darkness. It takes place between your ears on an individual level and collectively by all those which express light vs those which express darkness.

1 Cor 12:27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.
Rom 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

Even as you just quoted...

1 John 2:18..."and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come

There's only two men. It's all about who YOU are. Pick a side.

a reply to: Chronogoblin

The letter kills but the spirit gives life.

The literal reading that you and your death lovers promote is killing and violence and doom porn as far as the eye can see.

But the spirit gives life. The book of Revelation is written in Symbols, and is the unveiling of Jesus Christ in you, yes even you. This idea of some literal singular beast is nonsense. The beast has been since day one, well day six (666). Man and beast were created on day 6. The beast is the cherubim which was woven into the veil. That veil is the veil that still lies over your mind, as to this day when Moses (the literal/law/death) is read a veil (of death) lies over their minds.

2 Cor 3

But their minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ. But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their heart; but whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

What is the context of this passage?

not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Ministry of condemnation/death vs. the ministry of righteousness/life

Your dead letter reading produces the death we see. This isn't some philosophical construct it is fully recognizable that man has the penchant for everything that is anti-christ. You are the anti-christ.

Yes you.

So am I.

The mind of man sees death and brings death, the mind of man also reads death into the written words. Only the spirit gives life. Life does not= doom porn. Sorry. You can keep your literal beast caliphate whatever. You can wait until Revelation happens. Even though it was "shortly come to pass". Revelation is the word unveiling. Unveiling is of the covering of death over our minds. He already walked through, and tore the veil for us, so that we could enter in. You can wait on your doom it will come, but not at the hands of God. That is not how the Abba of Jesus acts. He came to bring life and abundantly. He forgives, and heals, and restores. It is the mind of man that is the enemy of God, God is not the enemy of man. What I'm saying is the beast already is, and was and will continue to be until we all are able to see clearly as in a mirror the shining reflection of the Son of Man.

2 Cor 3:18

But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.

Just a funny note as I get ready to post this, your total number of posts is 666

originally posted by: LetsMotivate
a reply to: works4dhs

there have already been antiChrist types--the Pharoh that had Jewish boys thrown in the river, Haman that tried to kill the Jews in Esther, Herod that ordered infants killed in the gospels, and Hitler, all evil leaders who sought to destroy the Jewish people. Bible prophecies a specific antiChrist at the end 'THE man of perdition' in 2 Thess 2:3.

The man of perdition is a many membered man. There are only two men. You are either part of Anti-Christ or you are part of Christ. All this means is you either are allowing love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, etc to be replicated in you (proven by what you do and say)or you're part of the anti-Christ allowing hate, impatience, greed, etc to be manifested thru you (again proven by what you say and do).

Every story, event, and book of the bible says that. It's the central pattern beginning with Genesis when God divided the light from the darkness, or Abel, Cain & Seth, or Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

This great battle of Armageddon is where the light eliminates the darkness. It takes place between your ears on an individual level and collectively by all those which express light vs those which express darkness.

1 Cor 12:27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.
Rom 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

Even as you just quoted...

1 John 2:18..."and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come

There's only two men. It's all about who YOU are. Pick a side.

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Yes, yes, yes, thank you

originally posted by: DJW001
Just so you understand, the traditional Jewish calendar is a lunar one; most of the holidays naturally fall on the new or full Moon. What this means is that the odds are very good that an eclipse of the Sun or Moon will occur on a Jewish holiday. The whole "blood Moon" meme is a recent creation by an American Fundamentalist preacher, designed to frighten the superstitious into buying his snake oil.

Which preacher would that be?

No it won't unless this that we've been living through is a lot worse than I think it is. The figure referred to in prophecy isn't supposed to reveal himself until about halfway through it all, and things are supposed to be quite ugly on earth by that point.

If the Tetrad means anything, it means something for Israel (the faithful Jews living there), and it is to the rest of us at most a signal of something that could happen in wider prophecy. Otherwise, it means nothing to the rest of Christendom. Lunar signs are for the Jews and solar ones for the Gentiles. There is, however, a full solar eclipse just a month or two before the final lunar eclipse in the pattern. We might even get to experience it from N. America.

a reply to: guitarplayer

John Hagee

a reply to: ketsuko

No it won't unless this that we've been living through is a lot worse than I think it is. The figure referred to in prophecy isn't supposed to reveal himself until about halfway through it all, and things are supposed to be quite ugly on earth by that point.

And things aren't "UGLY" right now?
'supposed to' is so lame.

Humans are forever at war. That is just how it is. There is NO 'savior' coming - there is only common sense, and common behavior. Read some history. We are repeating the same cycle over and over and over.

No one has come, and no one IS COMING. Deal with it.
America is a mess. Because of MEN and WOMEN - not because of some fantasy 'bad guy' or fantasy 'good guy' making it the way it is.

Is the US crazy?
answer = Yes.
And America is going the way of the Roman Empire....and every other failed civilization.

You might be interested to know that I now believe that it will never change. Never - because that is humanity. Tribalism, territorialism, greed, barbarity. It just is what it is. So - I've given up.

The U.S. is insane. I want to live where people care about each other and aren't obsessed with ancient myth and fantasy 'sky gods' to the effect that they don't give a crap about others.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Compared to the descriptions of what is to come ... No this is not the time no matter how bad you think it is.

Have 1/4 to 1/3 of all human beings and creatures on earth suddenly and catastrophically been wiped out by famine, war, plague and natural disaster? If not, then we aren't there yet.

Don't really put much stock in the concept of an "antichrist", but if this should be true, I think he's come and gone, long ago, and accomplished his 'dirty-work' already.

originally posted by: ketsuko
If the Tetrad means anything, it means something for Israel (the faithful Jews living there), and it is to the rest of us at most a signal of something that could happen in wider prophecy.

Otherwise, it means nothing to the rest of Christendom. Lunar signs are for the Jews and solar ones for the Gentiles. There is, however, a full solar eclipse just a month or two before the final lunar eclipse in the pattern. We might even get to experience it from N. America.

TO: OP in particular

It becomes more clear as events unfold that we are seeing the 1st four seals (of the 7 seals in Revelation) being opened

the Tetrad, this 4 blood moon sequence in history Is the 1st 4 seals of the Revelation scroll...

now is only the 'Early Birth Pangs' followed by the 'Beginning-of-Sorrows as seals 5-6-7 are opened


2015 will only see the further rise of the Caliphate (1st horseman & 2 horseman of war) along with the 3rd black horse & the 4th pale horse of Death go forth on 28 Sept 2015...

the AC will not be revealed yet... that human being must be resurrected from a mortal would by being in-dwelt and possessed of Satan himself... but that is in the 'middle-of-the-final-week'~ a 3 1/2 year period (42 months)(1260 days)

we are years to go before that particular time-to-come....
but, yes indeed, it is reasonable to have the opinion the person (man) who will become the Anti-Christ is indeed alive at this time, but He is not even remotely evil or despotic as he will become when resurrected by Satan.... sometime after 2020 (at the soonest is my best guess)

I think the ac is busy trying to pinn his role on someone else.

How about the saying that the one who killed christ will give birth to the ac?

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Reply to the OP : Work in progress IMO.

Check here

As to those who want to know why the AC won't be a woman, well, he is to be in all ways a counterfeit of Christ, and since Christ was a man, that sort of means the AC will likely be a man, too. He is supposed to be someone that people will believe IS the messiah returned. He is supposed to be so convincing that he will be able to deceive even the elect so the world's religious figures will even believe he is the messiah.

originally posted by: Chronogoblin
a reply to: zardust

The Beast is real, and so is the Anti-Christ. It is not some kind of philosophical construct, but an actual being. The Beast of Revelation is the religion of Islam. Educate yourself, and forget about the easter-mysticism. If your going to believe in Biblical exposition, then do so. But don't take other people's ideals about what this reality is, take God's. God says that the Anti-Christ is a person, not a 'feeling in your gut.'

in order for supporting Prophecy to be accurate ... RE: the beast will not honor the god of his fathers nor women...

so while the Seat and Power of Authority that Satan gives the AC...might be Islam that is the man or even Caliph BEFORE the mortal head wound... the AC resurrects and THEN declares himself God which in essence negates Islam, even Allah and the Prophet-Messenger Mohammad himself....

That is what makes him the AC....and possibly Pope Francis as the False Prophet who teamed with the Caliph to create a unified ChrIslam anti-God faith/empire


a reply to: ketsuko---> thanks for the clarity

I think that most people do not understand that the bible covers two different realms or earths. Just about everything in the bible is offset by something else in the bible. We have names like saul and paul timothy timothus...
I think in order to fully understand what is happen you first have to recognize this divide. One verse Jesus tells how he only reaps where he sows then another he tells how he reaps where he did not sow.

If one can start to see this divide then you may start to see the possibility that Jesus and the ac are gonna look the same and be basically the same person existing in different realms until one begins the 4th diminsion wandering again.

The duality i speak of in the bible is often called hypocrisy by many.

originally posted by: zardust
a reply to: Chronogoblin

The letter kills but the spirit gives life.

The literal reading that you and your death lovers promote is killing and violence and doom porn as far as the eye can see.

But the spirit gives life. The book of Revelation is written in Symbols, and is the unveiling of Jesus Christ in you, yes even you. This idea of some literal singular beast is nonsense. The beast has been since day one, well day six (666). Man and beast were created on day 6. The beast is the cherubim which was woven into the veil. That veil is the veil that still lies over your mind, as to this day when Moses (the literal/law/death) is read a veil (of death) lies over their minds.

2 Cor 3

But their minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ. But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their heart; but whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

What is the context of this passage?

not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Ministry of condemnation/death vs. the ministry of righteousness/life

Your dead letter reading produces the death we see. This isn't some philosophical construct it is fully recognizable that man has the penchant for everything that is anti-christ. You are the anti-christ.

Yes you.

So am I.

The mind of man sees death and brings death, the mind of man also reads death into the written words. Only the spirit gives life. Life does not= doom porn. Sorry. You can keep your literal beast caliphate whatever. You can wait until Revelation happens. Even though it was "shortly come to pass". Revelation is the word unveiling. Unveiling is of the covering of death over our minds. He already walked through, and tore the veil for us, so that we could enter in. You can wait on your doom it will come, but not at the hands of God. That is not how the Abba of Jesus acts. He came to bring life and abundantly. He forgives, and heals, and restores. It is the mind of man that is the enemy of God, God is not the enemy of man. What I'm saying is the beast already is, and was and will continue to be until we all are able to see clearly as in a mirror the shining reflection of the Son of Man.

2 Cor 3:18

But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.

Just a funny note as I get ready to post this, your total number of posts is 666

I'm quoting you so there will be at least 2 posts on this page that are truth.