The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
I get so tired of hearing “man is so insignificant that we can't harm the planet”. Never has there been such a bunch of BS that has been
allowed to propagate through the internet. Honestly its human wishful thinking and denial.
Scientific fact: Every time we launch a rocket, we change the rotation of the planet a minute fraction.
Scientific fact: If we ever had a nuclear war, it would result in a world wide nuclear winter.
Scientific fact: Much of the ocean is dead from our direct interference.
Scientific fact: When we build a city with a lot of concrete it changes the weather pattern and temperature of the area.
Scientific fact: Contrails artificially change the climate by holding heat at night and reflecting sun in the day.
Scientific fact: The Three Gorges Dam effected not only the local climate, but caused earthquakes, etc.
I can go on all day like this...
You bet your ass we can not only effect the planet, but we have, and no amount of denial is going to change that fact.
Now most of us think, “hey, the little bit I do isn't going to effect anything”, but the problem is that now there are 10 billion people who also
think that way. While what you do might only be a trillionth of a fraction of the problem, when you multiply that by 10 billion other people, and over
100 years, then take into account that it only requires a very small fraction of change to have a massive effect, it all adds up rapidly.
The thing I hate the worst is using the fact that its colder in an area to prove that this isn't happening, when in fact, that's a symptom that was
clearly explained even by Al Gore. Certain areas will get colder winters because the GULF STREAM IS BREAKING DOWN DUE TO FRESH WATER INFUSION... That
is also why the tremendous fluctuations we have now in Arctic and Antarctic sea ice. Water temperature controls the growth of sea ice, and the
salinity of the water (fresh water intrusion from melted ice) controls the Gulf Stream. The Gulf Stream's heat is what keeps areas along the eastern
US and Western Europe from having extremely cold winters. If your winters are getting colder, look at what the Gulf Stream is doing, not what the sky
As a diver here is Florida, I can tell you first hand that the oceans are dying, they have been dying for a decade, and its obvious to anyone that
spends time underwater. Ocean acidification, O2 dead zones, increased levels of red tide, the movement of aquatic life, the increasing range of
certain species of squid such as the Humboldt's; these are all signs that the ocean is dying, and if it does so do we.
I find it telling that three of the people laughing and joking about this topic on the first page all list their locations as in Michigan and Toledo.
Being from Michigan, and having working for the Big Three myself, I can't imagine why folks that are in an area saturated by the Coal, Steel, and Auto
Industry would want you to believe that this isn't happening?
As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.