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I always wondered, where there any ties between Herodes (Herod the Great, the one with the Temple) and Herodotus (Herodot, the historian)? Anyone?
originally posted by: TheoFieldsGardener
a reply to: greyer
I read that Josephus was a Herodian as well. He mysteriously survived Masada which was a Herodian religious propaganda sect (in response to Qumran for damage control) that Herod Antipas funded. I think the only ones to survive Masada were the ones passing out the Koolaid. He also claimed that the Hyksos in his writings were Jews and his kinsman but they were likely the same Edomites, like Job the Pious to counsel Pharaoh to kill the first born sons of YAHshurun (Israel) in Moses' day.
the Petrine and Pauline documents were carefully edited, and between the Gospel portion and the Pauline letters was inserted the new-forged link of the Acts of the Apostles, a carefully edited selection from a huge mass of legendary Acts, welded together into a narrative and embellished with speeches after the manner of Thucydides.
The Ebionites did not return to Jerusalem when the emperor permitted the new colony of Ælia Capitolina to be established in 138, for no Jew was allowed to return.
So much of the History taught is lies. These liars are so good that many people who would normally be punished severely at Judgement will receive lighter sentences. Are they helping us? It's fantastic. Every rock I turn over uncovers a conspiracy of epic proportions. It's astounding the degree of success they have enjoyed. One will not truly appreciate the depths of their work until the whole TRUTH is uncovered. They are truly masters of darkness. When this is over we will truly know GOOD from Evil- TRUTH from lies- LIGHT from darkness.
Jesus, the son of Gamaliel, became the successor of Jesus, the son of Damneus, in the high priesthood, which the king had taken from the other; on which account a sedition arose between the high priests, with regard to one another; for they got together bodies of the boldest sort of the people, and frequently came, from reproaches, to throwing of stones at each other. But Ananias was too hard for the rest, by his riches, which enabled him to gain those that were most ready to receive. Costobarus also, and Saulus, did themselves get together a multitude of wicked wretches, and this because they were of the royal family; and so they obtained favor among them, because of their kindred to Agrippa
-Josephus War of the Jews Chapter 9
originally posted by: greyer
Josephus seems to have interesting references, some will agree that it's almost like he is telling a story and molding the same character into many different names.
The 15 Jesuses in Josephus
originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
Or perhaps it's the other way around, that Rome would build their fake IESVS Antichrist as a composite of Josephus' 15 Jesuses, and have a Gospel otherwise known as Gospel Q written-- to set the different Jewish parties (scribes, priests, aristocracy, rabbis, Pharicees, Saduqees etc.) up against eachother and lure the messianic and highly revolutionary Jews in and feed them further passion; and to infiltrate (with Paul 7al) the spreading messianic awakenings that were often backed by various paramilitary units throughout the southeastern empire-- and have them all dance to the tune that Rome would decree.
The New testament is a testimony of Roman divide and conquer IMO. No matter how the story might have ended, it seems the Empire would come out the winner.