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Saul Paulus, Caesar's own zealous Pharicee

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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:38 PM
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a reply to: greyer




To my knowledge Saul the Herodian was the same Paul of Taurus that pushed James brother of Jesus from the top of the temple, or down some stairs and left him there.


No, the Herod clan were not Jews. But Saul was a very common name in that time in that area of the world.




posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:41 PM
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originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: Akragon




You Christians gotta give it up on predicting the tribulation thing...


Nah, let him predict it. Then we can be sure it won't happen on that date.


I could just save him the humiliation and quote Jesus... but Most Christians never listen...

but i'll just save him the trouble... it ain't gonna happen...


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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:42 PM
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originally posted by: TheoFieldsGardener
a reply to: greyer

Those that practice the pagan Pagan Judaism are not really Jews. The Synagogue of Satan runs all. Jews are all represented by the B or Beta Blood type. Before the flood ha Wah (Eve) and after the flood Japheth (Ashkenaz). They are not YAHqob's name sake but YAHudah's trough the daughter of Shuwah, Shela. The House of YAHqob/YAHsef are the A's. By blending them YHWH's prophets were manifested. Coming out of these Pagan Religions are exactly what Adam and Eve's children are called to do. Those still in them will be punished along the O's beginning this year after April 3rd. There is a small space for repentance after that is judgement and the 2nd death. Standing up is exactly what they must do so they are not counted amonst the Pagans.


What I have found is that the Gentile writers of the NT which appears to be Luke and Paul, who were on a quest to start a new world religion, deliberately covered up the history of the Jewish sect Nazarites, who had many customs of the Essenes, therefore they were a branch of Essenes because Essenes had many sects, little is it known that Pharisees are Essenes.

We know this from reading the multitude of historic documents from within 200 years of the death of Christ. It has been researched that James the brother of Christ was appointed head of the church and remained in Jerusalem until 62 AD when Paul killed him. Paul had intentions to do what he did. Paul removed the Essene identity of Peter, who was a strict vegetarian. Paul avoids us from even knowing Jame was head of the church for 30 years.

On thing to remember, when we talk about worshiping a Jew like Jesus it is regarding the ancient times. The apocalyptic texts were because the end of the world was in 72 AD, it was a reality for them, which is why they became apocalyptic in those last times.

I see that as true also, so it is a paradox. I believe the I Am comes in paradoxes. The Jewish are the holy, yet the Jewish are always continuing to run away from I Am, in ancient times they would turn away in many cases.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 06:05 PM
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Glad you brought that up. The Solar eclipse March 20th 2015 marks the spot to consolidate both the Solar and Lunar Calendar. Passover of Mercy 14 days later on April 3rd (Quatro Decimen). Passover of Blood next day Jews April 4th. Next day Christian Passover of Ishtar (Easter) April 5th. or maybe you hadn't noticed this extremely rare occurrence of all 3 Passovers lining up 123. So now get out your free Stellarium software out and notice that right as the Sun comes up in the East on the morning of April 4th, Virgo crowned with the 12 constellations over her head and with the Moon under her is descending in the west but not before she is clothed by the Sun.

Now the Jews are going to say that their Passover is a Sabbath. But here is the thing few people know, the Essenes did not start counting at Sunset because anyone with common sense would know a day starts at Sunrise. And they did not start counting the 1st day of the 1st month on March 21st beginning at 1. They started the count beginning with the number 4 for the 4th day of Creation when YHWH created the signs in the Heavens for counting. So when he says pray your flight not be on a Sabbath by this count it isn't. In fact it now resembles the Exodus week as well as the Crucifixion week and proving that the EssiYAH was truly cut off in the midst of the week as apposed to the Babylonian Sabbath.

If you did wait for that false Sabbath to end before your flight you would be delayed also fulfilling his parable of the 10 virgins as well as his warning that he will not delay his coming. They made the Red Sea run on Abib (Nisan 17) making there Sabbath the day after on the 18th. And Of course the next day the 19th of Abib- (April 8th) the Saints were seen after a great Earth Quake had risen them from the dead. It will happen again same day and WHO will return to meet them? By the 7th monthly Trump the Mystery of God will be finished as he has made known to his servants.

You won't have to wait very long to see if I'm right. If I missed something please let me know. I'm Not a Christian.
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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 06:10 PM
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a reply to: TheoFieldsGardener

I meant post a thread on it... Not here...

Put it in the predictions section please so everyone else can follow along...

Knowing you're not Christian adds a little to the drama, but it doesn't change the fact that it won't happen...

but we'll see eh...

Copy and paste that and put it in a thread of your own




posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: NOTurTypical

No, the Herod clan were not Jews. But Saul was a very common name in that time in that area of the world.



They became half-Jews by the time of Paul. And they were practicing Jews also.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: greyer

Yes I know about that incident with James and Paul from the Clementine Recognition & Homilys. How ever the House of YAHqob's name sake was found by the Europeans when they came to settle here 300 years ago. Jame Adair wrote a book entitled the History of the American Indian published in London in 1775. James (burried in NC) listed 23 arguments why the native americans could not have been any other than the lost tribes. So they were never lost they have just been swept under the rug of Manifest Destiny. I love the Beta Jews but their name sake is YAHudah through Shuwah's daughter, Shela. Hence the Jews. The native American tribes like the Cherokee are YAHqob's Alpha rightful heirs. I make a distinction because YHWH does.

Ever wonder why there are 2 walls going sea to sea on the Scottish English border? This is the place they were banished to before pushing them out of Europe and into North America. The Scottish are the only country in Europe who didn't kick the Jews out.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 06:43 PM
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Yes please do write it down. Both of you and don't worry where I post it because it goes where I go. Same story never once changing. I am sure you will see it again but be rest assured there are others that are aware of this date who will observe God's Holy days. Though not many Grigori.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: TheoFieldsGardener

DONE...

I expect you to show up to make your admission of not being able to see the future at that date


Thanks



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 07:03 PM
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Is it just me, or does Paul seem very insincere here? Looks to me that he calls everything he gained in in Life rubbish because of Jesus. He does seem rather sarcastic here. To his defence, he does seem to call "Christ Jesus" his Lord here, but one could just as well translate the text to read «My knowledge of Christ Jesus the Lord» not «knowing Christ Jesus my Lord». That is Gr.: «γνώσεως […] μου» "Gnoseos […] mou" 'my knowledge' + «Χριστοῦ Ἰησοῦ τοῦ Κυρίου» "of Christ Jesus the Lord". Ambiguous and somewhat revealing, this looks like a good candidate for Paul confessing straight out he's a Judeo-Roman agent. No wonder he desires or believes…:

Very well questioned--
Paul was an unusual person in unusual circumstances. He was blessed with exceptional intelligence and allowed the best teachers. Tradition tells us that he not only studied under Gamaliel the Elder but was targeted to one day become the president of the Sanhedrin. I don't know if that part is true but it is believed by some that Saul would replace Gamaliel the Elder one day. In my understanding that would have been a career loss to any Jew in that period. To lose all of the many years of study and belief only to have your entire life changed in a heart beat is a pretty tough thing to face in anyone's life.

Now Utnapisjtim, don't you think that the converted Saul who is now imprisoned and most certainly realizes the seriousness of his internment isn't at the least bit uncertain of all of this which has come down on him? Surely he is aware that he is in a death struggle even as a Roman citizen. This man has lost all of his possessions in life and all prospects of even getting out of this alive. And even if he did get out alive then what? Continue preaching and eventually be arrested again? There is nothing left for him but to die with the faith that he is not insane but that Jesus is the Christ. Paul was not privileged to have walked with Jesus such as some were and I have often wondered if he at times was not required to have a bit more faith than most others.

I wonder how many of us could do the same? Lots of thoughts in your thread--



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 07:04 PM
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Done you'll see me. Thank you and you are very welcome



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 07:09 PM
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In Philippians Saul seems desperate, he's afraid. But he has nothing to fear, which he knows. There are no true record of his death anywhere. Rumour has it he left Peter and the others in Rome and fled to die an old man in Spain or Gaul.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 07:25 PM
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he was referencing undercover brother
that is mark anthony. ceasers illigitment kidd Jesus son of the line of david
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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 11:16 PM
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originally posted by: greyer

originally posted by: NOTurTypical

No, the Herod clan were not Jews. But Saul was a very common name in that time in that area of the world.



They became half-Jews by the time of Paul. And they were practicing Jews also.


No, the Herods were Edomites. They were appointed to rule over the Jews because they and the Jews hates one another.



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 05:14 AM
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a reply to: TheoFieldsGardener

Take a look at the Canaanean pantheon and the sons of El. There is a certain dragon among El's sons, called Yam. Yam is the Hebrew (well, Canaanean actually) word for Sea, and Yam was the god of seas and rivers and well, water. In Hebrew lore Yam is the Leviathan. He had seven heads and was the embodiment of the River Nile. That's why he has seven heads, since the River Nile is separated into seven bodies of water by six natural cateracts. Now, if you head East from Canaan and Egypt, you end up around Babylon, and in ancient Sumer they had another dragon, the Tiamat. She/He had ten horns and can sometimes be depicted with seven heads aswell. Tiamat is the embodiment of the rivers and canals of the plains in Mesopotamia. The Greek equivalent would be the Hydra.

Just as these dragons are anthropomorphic deities, they are also an image of what's above. And this brings us to the core of the whole war in heaven and the rest of it. The astrological Pantheon. Our days are named after "the seven wandering stars", that is Sol, Luna, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. As you see these are not Christian names, but Roman names of Roman gods in the Roman pantheon. This is the Dragon, summed up by their leader, Jupiter -- Zeus. In Greece or for that matter the Germanians had different names for these astrological deities, but essentially it's the same system, and it has been going on as long as there has been civilisation, or perhaps more importantly, empires and their priesthoods, and in one form or another it has probably been going on much longer. Not much worth fighting against it really, and it doesn't hurt us, I don't mind calling Tzedeq Jupiter or his day Thursday (in the Norse pantheon, Jupiter/Zeus/Baal is Thor, Thor's Day - Thursday), it's a good system that has been working fine for thousands of years. Kudos to the Dragon for his order I'd say. So listen to the words long written down: Love your enemy, and there's no use in fighting the wind, Panza, tell your master that. I kinda like the old stories too. They sort of teach you things about the world and yourself that makes you richer inside, and which may open your eyes to a world of such beauty and proportion that it might perhaps even amaze you ever so slightly.

ETA: Then we have the Dragon's subjects, the Empire (Beast, Rome 7c) and the High Priest (False Prophet, Pontif) and the Priesthood (Babylon, Church). Not much use in fighting them either I'm afraid....

«Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.»
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posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 08:52 AM
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Yes but this system's day is coming to an end because it's time is up. We live under a schedule in which all things must be adjusted to the divine scales of balance. My favorite story is that of O- Elijah (ELiYAH), YHWH's greatest fighter. No one will dispute that he cut the heads of the priests of Baal because he loved YHWH. Because of Divine justice John the the Baptist who was ELiYAH in another incarnation, though he never relented lost his head. When we go to battle we are always fighting against ourselves. You can't cut heads and not lose your own. This is the patience John had to learn. In this Matrix my concern is for the totally blind who just don't know that the Glory of YHWH is that he forgives and though iniquities can not be forgotten sentences may be reduced for the truly wise, kind and loving. If I could have gotten your bosses to see this don't you think this would have been a better place. Now look at the mess. Is this order as sound as you say?

But he will not have any part of that because they hated Adam and ha Wah from the beginning. Where is the love for them. If you love someone you don't lie to them. If you do injure someone then you offer restitution so the Divine can see you have learned something so the ground doesn't continue to cry. You can not be a tyrant and expect to continue in that forever. ELiYAH knew this. He is a fallen angel that I could easily love because he learned to love against all odds. Not just Adam and ha Wah but Adam's animals too. Praying for ELiYAH's good health was easy because he made it easy. I can appreciate your concern since nothing is hidden.



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 09:35 AM
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No, the Herods were Edomites. They were appointed to rule over the Jews because they and the Jews hates one another.


It's not even worth the time for me to get my sources, I have read over, and over, from everybody that I am right. And who are you? A stubborn egotistical narcissist who always has to argue with people because they don't ever feel good in their soul if they are labeled as right in society? I don't judge you or care about how you think, but I do care that you continue to enslave people by telling them your lies and nonsense are actually true.

It is the pitiful rebel in your mind that makes you argue with everybody, this little ego in you that says you always have to be right. It is this passion that disregards righteousness. And in the struggle for always being egotistical and right by delusion, there is no other option but to eventually lie and speak blasphemy against others. Which brings us to the reality in the world - the righteous have no voice because the people who are full of pride have to be dominant in their ego, to the point of believing in delusion and enslaving humanity b that same delusion.

It is so pitiful this ego, that even though dozens of scholars speak righteous and give their sources, you still have to cut them down in the name of delusion, ignorance, pride, and ego (everything the bible opposes) just to be in the delusion of pride and happiness, but in reality it is sin, depriving human being of knowledge, and enslaving their mind to your negative force holds of falsehood. Much like the person we were talking about, Paul.

Now it is misery to the soul and cause to be an Essene (withdrawing from all society to be pious and righteous) that every day, everywhere, and every minute some foolish person has a passion to share lies with their denied brothers and sisters. Mark my words, it is an absolute shame that a human being is not allowed to speak truth in the world, for he will be cut down by those who have a passion for delusion, enslaved by the opposing ego, always opposing of truth.

You were the second person today after twenty minutes that absolutely refuses to acknowledge the truth like a stubborn ignorant child, pride and ego are so prevalent in the world that if I were to go outside it would be shoved in my face from the moment I leave the door. The reality, is that within 5 minutes of looking at the world through a computer I was lied to within 5 minutes of waking. There is an constant influx of numerous lies that continue to be spoken from the world in power, the world with lots of money, to the every day public, that stands for - wickedness, injustice, falsehood, pride, delusion, a refusal to learn, an ego that Needs to be right, ignorance, negativity, hate, every single that that comes fro the devil and truly nothing that comes from God.
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posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 10:07 AM
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Yes, those dirty bird Herods are the royal family today. I find it eternally amusing that Elizabeth dyed her hair all those years to hide it's true color. Charles too. The Hair reds are baby killers. Job was a Hair red. Prince Red & Harry is the one to watch though he's a real beast. What do you think Greyer?



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 10:10 AM
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If we are to survive as a species we must learn to live together. Soon enough Sol will be a very much so terrible God, and with Zeus winding it up every twelve years and Luna bringing in the primes, and Venus with her elegance and beauty, we will soon enough understand that these gods are very real, however they are not persons, and they are nothing you can really fight. They are the embodiment of knowledge that God left for us so we could make sense out of our surroundings.

I mean, this solar system is a joke. They say God cannot be proven? I mean look at this? The proportions of man, compared to the proportions involved in basic geometry, we are technology made to mirror the Heavens and supposedly the gods up there. And in those heavens are found among others, Jupiter (or Zeus or Baal or Tzadeq if you prefer the older names), and one of our days are named after his Norse equivalent, Thor, you find his name in the word Thunder and Tower. What's the problem with that? It's how you choose to define those dots in the sky and archaic names. it's only proper that we keep our ancient friends at the Olymp fed with bedding now in their older years. It would be deceitful to remove it or Christianise it all. Been there, done that.

Thing is. We wouldn't have landed on the Moon without the Apollo and the others, including the myths once written to inspire mankind, and the various tin cans involved carrying names in these mythical characters' honor. Dreams and timeless wisdom, my friend, don't scoff at the poetry and myth either, unlike most Christians, none of these gods mind their stories being called myths, for like the stories of the Bible, they are in all their essence, myths. And there is indeed such a thing as true myths. In many ways mythology is the language of this here truth. So lower your shoulders mate. Worry about things you have at least the slightest chance of conquering instead. Much more rewarding.
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ETA: Though I must admit the thought of adding another golden fleece to my collection does sound intriguing. An Odyssey against the Odyssey. Hmm...
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posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 10:59 AM
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You See, This is what I'm talking about. There just isn't any LOVE at all. Which is really quite sad. Who would fight an enemy that is already defeated itself? I find a very low quality of light in your post. These angels gave up their powers. Though they may have a little power here as men they will certainly just be men or do you not understand the meaning of fallen. Your technology will get you as far as a satellite and maybe you can make some monsters.That is all. If you could go any further then you'd be a fugitive on the run. They are headed for the Pit as it is written. Paul/Saul- Apollyon dwells in the Abyss. Your not crashing the gates this much I know.



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