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Disinformation on ATS about Protests in Russia, oh my god OMG OMG

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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:17 AM
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Protests in Russia, oh my god, oh my god

As some ATS members already asked.

What is Putin gonna do ?
Is this the end of Putin ?

I am in panic clicking left and right all over ATS, activating numerous adds by mistake, cold sweat on my forehead.

LOL

about 800 people, marched in Moscow, in support of the guy who ran for Mayor of Moscow and received 20 % of the vote. Turns out he is a criminal and worked with CIA to organize color revolution in Russia which failed.

This is a complete non event.

But hey, if you hate someone so deeply and his existence bothers you so deeply then it is perfectly fine to grab for straws.

Have a drink "comrades", because what you are about to read will be painful indeed.

Putin has 70-80 % approval rating, and even with crappy economy when that approval falls to 50-60 %, is still miles ahead of Obama/Bush/Merkel/Cameron
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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:22 AM
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Putin has 70-80 % approval rating

Dictators tend to have large approval ratings but that doesn't mean the people approve of the dictator.

The protests may be small now but I feel we will see more and larger protests as things worsen.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:23 AM
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In the aftermath of the verdict, thousands of protesters congregated near Red Square. Navalny broke his house arrest in an effort to join the protest, but was apprehended by Russian police as he left the metro, and returned under guard to his apartment, where he remained under house arrest. An estimated 100 protesters were arrested.

Last week, it was reported that the Kremlin had strongly suggested that major Russian companies convert their profits earned in foreign currency back into rubles – a suggestion that many executives, watching a relative of Putin’s most high-profile opponent be shipped off to a labor camp, may find hard to ignore.


Source - 3 hours old

Putin does have high approval ratings, but how long will that hold once his economy tanks - which it is currently in the process of doing?

Yes, disinformation does litter ATS. A self-fulfilling OP.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:25 AM
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a reply to: FutureWithoutFuture4

I just remembered Hollande of France.

His approval is something like 17 %

That is so low, I would commit suicide if I was him.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:27 AM
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a reply to: FutureWithoutFuture4

I don't really give him that much thought, but his approval rating is not because he's such a great guy, it's because people tend to support their leaders when they feel threatened. Look at what Bush got away with after 9/11.

www.forbes.com...

Western sanctions seem to have encouraged Russians to “rally ’round the flag.” This shouldn’t be shocking. People in almost every country tend to act defensively when they perceive themselves as being under threat, and standoffs with foreign governments almost always end up bolstering the powers that be.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:28 AM
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a reply to: FutureWithoutFuture4

While what you say makes sense to me, you are going to get blasted for not providing a link, even then it will probably still get shot down as Russian propaganda, but still we need the link!

All one needs to do is read zbigniew brzezinski's book the grand chessboard, I shall now quote a summary-

" As the twentieth century draws to a close, the United States has emerged as the world’s only superpower: no other nation possesses comparable military and economic power or has interests that bestride the globe. Yet the critical question facing America remains unanswered: What should be the nation’s global strategy for maintaining its exceptional position in the world? Zbigniew Brzezinski tackles this question head-on in this incisive and pathbreaking book.)The Grand Chessboard

Here is the PDF of The Grand Chessboard!

Given the CIA's connections with all the other color revolutions *cough* operation gladio *cough* there is no question they could and probably do have operatives active in Russia.

Deep Black Ties indeed!

Alexey Navalny and his brother may very well be such operatives however we are going to need some proof! I will give you this though, my gut says that you are right!

Again I do believe that you are correct, I would like to see your sources though!

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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:28 AM
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originally posted by: gortex
Dictators tend to have large approval ratings but that doesn't mean the people approve of the dictator.

The protests may be small now but I feel we will see more and larger protests as things worsen.


Take a phone book, you can find online phone book of any Russian large City.

Get yourself a guy who speaks Russian and call people randomly asking about Putin.

Get your own data if you don't trust polls done in Russia.

As for your other comment....wishful thinking.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:28 AM
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But hey, if you hate someone so deeply and his existence bothers you so deeply then it is perfectly fine to grab for straws.


I will put a wager on, the people that were bothered by this on here are from the USA.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:30 AM
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originally posted by: FutureWithoutFuture4

Putin has 70-80 % approval rating, and even with crappy economy when that approval falls to 50-60 %, is still miles ahead of Obama/Bush/Merkel/Cameron


Hmm Kim jong un from North Korea has an approval rating between 99%- 95%, I guess following Your logic, all world leaders should be taking classes from him then ? NK has to be such a joyful and lovely country, I wonder if that view is also shared by 100% of their citizens ....

See there is such a thing as propaganda and there is such a thing as logic ... Usually not the same thing ...
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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:31 AM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
I don't really give him that much thought, but his approval rating is not because he's such a great guy, it's because people tend to support their leaders when they feel threatened. Look at what Bush got away with after 9/11.

www.forbes.com...

Western sanctions seem to have encouraged Russians to “rally ’round the flag.” This shouldn’t be shocking. People in almost every country tend to act defensively when they perceive themselves as being under threat, and standoffs with foreign governments almost always end up bolstering the powers that be.


David I am objective guy and I give credit where due.

You are correct, that plays part in it too.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:32 AM
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originally posted by: Thill
Hmm Kim jong un from North Korea has an approval rating between 99%- 95%, I guess all world leaders should be taking classes from him then, by Your logic ? NK has to be such a joyful and lovely country, I wonder if that view is also shared by 100% of their citizens ....


You can find online phone book of any Russian large City.

Get yourself a guy who speaks Russian and call people randomly asking about Putin.

Get your own data if you don't trust polls done in Russia.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:33 AM
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Not like Russians are known for their high standard living.

I mean really, all they need is vodka and they're happy


On a more serious note, many Russians strongly believe that the west is out to get them( are they wrong? ), so i strongly believe that any serious economic hit that Russia receives will just raise popularity of Putin.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:34 AM
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I follow the advice of my russian friend in st. petersburg .. have a vodka and laugh ..



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:36 AM
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You'd be right Heff if not for this one thing.

Russian people are basically like ATS members, all paranoid when it comes to Western actions of sabotage, and for good reason.

They will blame their woes on USA,

They won't blame Europe, they largely accept Europe as US lapdog.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:37 AM
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a reply to: Nikola014

To be fair the new Corporatocracy that is running the world is out to get everyone. Us and them, and anyone in between.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:39 AM
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Get your own data if you don't trust polls done in Russia.

I don't trust any polls as they are easily skewed to show what you want them to show , Putin has shown by his actions over the years that he will do anything to hold on to power but up until now there seems to have been little appetite to stop him , his attempt to start another cold war in my opinion is another attempt to seal his control over Russia.



As for your other comment....wishful thinking.

That remains to be seen but as people are squeezed they will react regardless of fear or favour.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:39 AM
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originally posted by: Hefficide
a reply to: Nikola014

To be fair the new Corporatocracy that is running the world is out to get everyone. Us and them, and anyone in between.



Aye this is why I naively believe that BRICS is somehow not the anti-thesis and is actually working to stop it!



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:39 AM
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On a more serious note, many Russians strongly believe that the west is out to get them( are they wrong? ), so i strongly believe that any serious economic hit that Russia receives will just raise popularity of Putin.


And that is because they know if they say anything bad about Putin they will have a nice winter vacation in the Siberian Tundra.

And yes they are wrong.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:40 AM
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originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: Hefficide

Not like Russians are known for their high standard living.

I mean really, all they need is vodka and they're happy


On a more serious note, many Russians strongly believe that the west is out to get them( are they wrong? ), so i strongly believe that any serious economic hit that Russia receives will just raise popularity of Putin.

Yes, they are wrong. They may be out to get Putin, but the West would be very happy if Russia stopped seeing a world where Russia won by the West losing, and both sides worked together.

Putin, not the Russian on the street corner is the enemy.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:41 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Of course people will stand up for Putin...

It's not real healthy not too apparently..


2. Bagavutdinova, Zarema Ziyavutdinovna, born on 18 September 1968 in Buinaksk, Dagestan, Russia. Member of the Dagestan regional NGO Pravozashchita (“Human Rights Defense”). She is charged under art. 205.1, para. 1 of the CC RF (“Involvement of a Person in the Commission of Crimes under Article 208 of the CC RF”). In custody since 4 July 2013.

The investigators have not presented any material evidence, except for evidence that the accused, as an employee of the Dagestan regional NGO Pravozashchita, gave comments to the media that were critical of the security services.



3. Bazarbayev, Marat Tukmurzaevich, born on 9 April 1976. Member of the banned organization Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami (“Islamic Liberation Party”).

Recognized as a political prisoner because the deprivation of liberty was imposed exclusively because of political and religious or other views, as well as in connection with the non-violent expression of the freedom of thought, conscience, and religion, and the freedom of expression of opinions and information, in violation of the right to a fair trial



19. Kosenko, Mikhail Aleksandrovich, born on 8 July 1975. Has a type II disability based on a psychiatric condition. Charged on 18 June 2012 under art. 212, para. 2 of the CC RF

Recognized as a Prisoner of Conscience by Amnesty International.

Recognized as a political prisoner because he is being prosecuted solely in connection with the non-violent use of his right to the freedom of assembly on the basis of a charge with an offense that was not committed, in violation of the right to a fair trial, and because his detention is disproportionate to the imputed act.


A Lot More Here

Heck I would say he was the king of the world to keep out of a gulag..


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.


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