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3 Bodies Not 40 found in AirAsia crash

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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 12:01 AM
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Indonesian officials shows airplane parts and a suitcase found floating on the water near the site where AirAsia Flight 8501 disappeared.



Do you trust these guys? ^^^





Most news sources are using variations of this guy crying. All were pulled from different sites:





Do you believe?




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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 12:37 AM
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This is the uncropped photo released by AP with their wire story.



And this is the original caption that accompanied the image.


Relatives of passengers of the missing AirAsia Flight 8501 react upon seeing the news on television about the findings of bodies on the waters near the site where the jetliner disappeared, at the crisis center at Juanda International Airport in Surabaya, East Java, Indonesia, Tuesday, Dec. 30, 2014. Bodies and debris were seen floating in Indonesian waters Tuesday, painfully ended the mystery of AirAsia Flight 8501, which crashed into the Java Sea and was lost to searchers for more than two days.(AP Photo/Trisnadi)


ETA These images were reportedly captured from a very specific moment that CNN sums up well...


Surabaya, Indonesia (CNN) - For families of some people on board AirAsia Flight QZ8501, the devastating images came without warning.

Officials had just told them they were 95% certain they had found wreckage from the plane. But there was no word about their friends and loved ones.

Live video on TVs at an airport crisis center were showing coverage of the story when up popped pictures of debris, and a body in the water.

Until that moment, most of the people in the room had been watching stoically, one man told CNN's Andrew Stevens.

When the body appeared on screen, many were shocked.

"People became hysterical, they were screaming and crying. Some people fainted," said the man, who identified himself as Nasaruddin. His friend, businessman Charlie Gunawan, was on the flight, along with Gunawan's wife, three children and mother-in-law.

People burst into tears, dabbing their eyes as officials passed out tissues. Some sat still, covering their mouths, or with their heads buried in their hands.

Others had phones jammed against their ears.

The mayor of Surabaya demanded the televisions showing the images be turned off immediately, according to Nasaruddin.

The grisly images appeared during a news conference the families had been watching.







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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 01:07 AM
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a reply to: southtower

If these bodies are indeed from the air Asia flight why in one image is showing that one lifeless body with an underwear? i highly doubt such bodies could even survive such crashes let lone that such pictures is asking for more questions then answers.

That image just feels out of place. The MSM is already claiming that a victim is being found wearing a life jacket yet they arent showing us the images, something seems very about this.
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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 01:32 AM
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a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter

Here is video of the underwear guy/girl:



Seems fake


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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 02:00 AM
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a reply to: southtower

It's not a guy.

It's a woman.

Hence why there's just underwear as she was probably wearing a dress



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 04:05 PM
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Now they are reporting 7 bodies. Still no black box. No evidence really of anything. We dont need 500 photos but lets see some wreckage and more bodies.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: holywar666

Why?

So you can call them fake?



posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 06:26 AM
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I agree, there's a LOT of doubt about the crash discovery. In my opinion it was faked.

If the plane wreckage was found only 10 miles from the point contact was lost, why did it take 3 days to find it? Surely that's the first place they would have searched? The sea is only about 100 feet deep, so it should be easy retrieve the black box.

Bad weather is delaying the retrieval? High winds are unheard of in this area as it lies close to the Equator. That only leaves heavy rain, hardly severe weather.

There is no footage whatsoever of the plane in the water. It would also be incredibly easy to fake one or two corpses. The coffins in the airport could have sandbags in them for all we know. If people expect the media to have done their homework properly, they need a reality check!



posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 06:35 AM
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One other important point - the Indonesian, Singaporean and Malaysian media in the area are all controlled. These countries do not have a free press, so journalists cannot challenge the government.

China has the same problem. The Chinese are used to being lied to by their government. That is why there was such a strong reaction there when it was announced that MH370 was simply lost at sea.

The western media should not be so quick to believe the official storyline about this Air Asia flight either.



posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 12:53 PM
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30 bodies recovered. No picture evidence of anything. Here is some more "wreckage" :


originally posted by: Smidge
There is no footage whatsoever of the plane in the water.

One could argue that the plane was destroyed on impact, but finding 30 bodies means we should see some serious wreckage.


originally posted by: Smidge
The western media should not be so quick to believe the official storyline about this Air Asia flight either.


Agreed



posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: southtower

Large wreckage sinks. Some of the pieces moved over 30 miles in the current after the crash. There have been violent storms in the area every day.
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posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 02:20 PM
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There is no wind in the area since it is in the doldrums very near the Equator.
Climate Data for Jakarta

How can the weather affect the recovery? It doesn't make sense. All this talk of bodies being recovered with no footage or proof.



posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 02:24 PM
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What sort of violent storm would you be describing? It must be a storm with no wind and only rain and thunder. No one has done their homework and our media are just printing whatever they are being told.

In my opinion, this adds to the impression that the wreckage is faked. The experts are baffled as to how a plane at 35,000 feet could drop almost vertically and hit the sea in the location it was "found". Ooops, it seems that they picked the "wrong" site for their fake crash.
Air Asia QZ8501 Dropped Almost Vertically
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posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 02:24 PM
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Are you kidding? They have monsoon rains almost every day. The storms have been so strong search planes and helicopters can't fly. It's easy to recover bodies in flat seas and sunny days. Add in 6+ foot waves and it gets a hell of a lot harder.
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posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: Smidge

Jesus I hope you're not serious. You think the doldrums means there is never wind there? How are there typhoons there then?



posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58
There is no wind here, see the climate graphs for yourself. They do not get typhoons. I have lived in the area (Singapore) and never experienced any wind or saw any high waves on the sea.

You are mixing up Monsoon season with Typhoon season . Yes, they have a rainy monsoon. No, they never get any typhoons or even wind!
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posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 03:08 PM
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Really? They don't get them often but they happen.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

In June of 2014 they recorded winds in excess of 100 km/h. Multiple times there has been damage in the area caused by high winds. They're common when squalls move in.

m.todayonline.com...

It seems weather services disagree with you.


What are Sumatras?

Sumatras are line of thunderstorms which usually occur during the Southwest Monsoon season from May to October each year. These squalls develop at night over Sumatra or the Malacca Straits and move east towards Singapore and the west coast of Peninsular Malaysia during the pre-dawn and early morning. They are often characterised by sudden onset of strong gusty surface winds and heavy rain lasting from 1 to 2 hours as they move across the island. Maximum gusts of up to 50 knots have been recorded during the passage of a Sumatra squall.

www.weather.gov.sg...

That sounds like wind to me.

All thunderstorms are characterized by micro bursts, no matter where you are.



posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58
One to two hours of gusty winds - surely this reinforces my point.



posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: Smidge

And you completely ignore the 100+km/h wind gust recorded last summer. And the fact that ALL thunderstorms are characterized by microbursts. Singapore gets wind, and they get strong storms all the time. Storms that have made search and recovery incredibly difficult.



posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 04:55 PM
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So it's the typical conspiracy lover conundrum..

1. It takes a country too long to find something..they must be hiding the truth!!!
2. They found it too soon..it must be fake!!!

Ahh..Mulders..you make this fun.




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