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Woman Accidentally Shot Dead by Two-Year-Old Boy in Wal-Mart

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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: DrJunk

These people that use weapons to kill aren't using the weapons in a manner that is at odds with it's design. They are using them in a manner that is consistent with their intended purpose.

To project a missile with lethal force.


The express purpose of a firearm is to expel a projectile with velocity to strike a target accurately.


Show me another instance where a consumer products intended use causes the death of humans. We need look no further than tobacco. Tobacco was held accountable, why not gun makers?


Tobacco makers were sued because the marketed their products as healthful and not carcinogenic when they were aware of the contrary.

Bad example.




posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: DrJunk

Then please refer to murder, as that is what i referred to. Nice deflection though


Why? Guns don't kill people, people do, remember?

If guns are designed to kill, and a gun is used to kill, is it a misuse?

Murder or not, homicide is the intended design function of many firearms.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: DrJunk

And the user is responsible for their own actions with a firearm, what with them operating them and such.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: DrJunk

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: DrJunk

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
But, to be clear, no gun manufacturer ever has made claims that their weapons are safe. They've never implied it, they've never outright said it. Now, if there were suddenly a surge of accidental gun-deaths because firearms were discharging even WITH the safety on, you might have a case here, but that's not what you're arguing.


The first site I went to was Remington's site.


Hunting and target shooting are among the safest of all sports.


www.remington.com...

This is certainly an implication, if not an outright claim of the safety of their products. I don't really care to dig deeper on this. It's either there or it isn't. One implication disproves your claim.


Fair point, but they're saying specifically that hunting and target shooting is safe, not the product itself. And they are correct, actually. Very few people die while hunting or target shooting. The same can't be said for racecar driving, or skydiving, or stunt-plane racing. So statistically, it is a very safe sport.

What I fail to see here is the gun manufacturer saying their PRODUCT is safe.


The implication wasn't that is was safer than the most dangerous sports, it said it was amongst the safest of all sports. The implication is that walking in the woods at twilight with a loaded Remington is as safe as running across a soccer pitch or playing volleyball, or basketball. Maybe that is a factually accurate claim, but... I don't think so... and I'm willing to concede the argument.
Well, high school kids die every year at football practice from heat stroke, so these things can and do happen. And to be fair I agree with some of your opinions. I want to live in a world where people don't feel the need to carry a gun for protection. But I cannot feasibly find a solution with my limited amount of grey matter. Especially in the U.S., it's difficult to create a solution to the "gun problem" because guns are as much as a part of American culture as cheeseburgers, apple pie, and baseball. I have the luxury of living in a country where where I can walk in relative security knowing I won't be shot to death, but I could still be raped, stabbed, mugged, beaten, drugged, or any number of things. While I'm not allowed to carry a gun in this country I do carry around a ceramic blade (take that, metal detectors!) for self defense just in case.
edit on 31-12-2014 by ScientificRailgun because: fixed formatting



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: ScientificRailgun

It should be noted that many hunting related deaths involve falls from tree stands as opposed to firearms related deaths.





edit on 31-12-2014 by AugustusMasonicus because: networkdude has no beer



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

It should be noted that the many hunting related deaths involve falls from tree stands as opposed to firearms related deaths.




Ban assault liquor. Don't drink and deer-stand.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 01:34 PM
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Momma didn't raise no victim.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 09:17 PM
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a reply to: gortex
She didn't know how to put the lock on a gun? She was that irresponsible? It's a good thing this girl wasn't responsible for nuclear reactors or something really dangerous.
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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 10:08 PM
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originally posted by: Bilk22
It's a good thing this girl wasn't responsible for nuclear reactors or something really dangerous.

I have some bad news for you.

She was a nuclear research scientist and also a firearms enthusiast.



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: Greven

Maybe you guys should be careful talking too much about this nuclear thing, it may give some gun nut the idea that he needs his own nuclear bomb for self defense.








posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 12:45 AM
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originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: Bilk22
It's a good thing this girl wasn't responsible for nuclear reactors or something really dangerous.

I have some bad news for you.

She was a nuclear research scientist and also a firearms enthusiast.

Gee did you also find that out from the articles and links? My post was sarcasm.

I find this story difficult to believe. Has the gun been identified? A two year old has the strength to pick up a firearm and pull the trigger? Is the kid hurt? Has that been reported? One would think that a two year old would get hurt from discharging a firearm. The grandfather said the "purse" was a special purse to conceal a firearm. I assume that means it's enclosed in some inner pocket and possibly has some type of closure.

I don't know what is or isn't true about this story, but it doesn't add up in my estimation.



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 04:40 AM
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This is just God saying he does not like stupid gun owners.



posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
If the 2 year old was capable of firing the gun it had to be loaded and cocked to do so.
Culprit: CCW owner.
Darwin failure with a gun.


Oh, so cheap.

Darwin has nothing to do with it. A life was taken. Imagine what that boy has to go through when he grows up: realising it was HIM that shot his mother. Those frigging guns and the frigging fools that advocate them.




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