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originally posted by: Xcathdra
The fact remains Turkey is the one responsible for what happens if the treaty is violated and like I said I don't see Russia getting a sympathetic ear from Turkey with all the provocations Russia has made, including against Turkey.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: kitzik
Right...
Here, educate yourself -
1936 CONVENTION REGARDING THE REGIME OF THE STRAITS
Yes we are more than aware of what the possibilities are. The problem is Putin and his threat to use nukes. Its Putin and his inability to own his mistakes. Its Putin and his ego leading us down this path.
What Putin is gambling on is the west giving in to what Putin wants and has taken. The problem with that mindset, and again with Putin rewriting history, is Europe went down this road twice in the last century. Unfortunately Putin believes his own lies.
Putin is the one who can end all of this and thus far his ego is preventing him from accepting the fact he made a big boo boo.
He is underestimating the resolve of Europe and overestimating his ability to win a war that he started in Ukraine.
Any chance you will answer my question about Russian reaction if Turkey tells Russia to kick rocks with regards to the straights?
Any further entry into the Black Sea of naval forces of non-Black Sea Powers shall only be effected within
the available limits of the aggregate tonnage provided for in paragraphs (a) and (b) above.
(2) Vessels of war belonging to non-Black Sea Powers shall not remain in the Black Sea more than twenty one
days, whatever be the object of their presence there.
Putin is the one who can end all of this and thus far his ego is preventing him from accepting the fact he made a big boo boo.
t is demonstrating that Putin is off his rocker and his unpredictable demeanor coupled with his imaginary threats to Russia and perceived slight by leaders towards him is a threat not just to the west, but everyone
The US downgraded Europe after it sold those fake bank products, Europe was a bigger economy then the US, of course the Euro was in a good position replacing the dollar as the world currency, you don't want that 2 happen
By suddenly abandoning the South Stream natural gas pipeline, the Kremlin may damage political ties with several partners. Hungary and Serbia expended substantial political capital by supporting the pipeline’s construction despite violations of EU anti-monopoly regulations. Nonetheless, the Kremlin has other levers of political and financial influence and can capitalize on ethnic disputes in Bosnia-Herzegovina and Macedonia to thwart EU and NATO enlargement.
Moscow’s backing for nationalism, ultra-conservatism, and Euroskepticism throughout the continent is a profitable method to undermine the EU from within. A fifth of EU parliamentarians oppose further EU expansion and vote against resolutions critical of Moscow. Among these are assorted nationalists from CEE who view Putin as a defender of traditional values. Paradoxically, these deputies are ultimately undermining the independence of their own countries by supporting a regime that views the sovereignty of neighbors as a transient phenomenon.
In the western Balkans, Albania and Kosova will always remain bastions of pro-Americanism and resistance to Russia’s inroads.
originally posted by: VirusGuard
a reply to: Xcathdra
t is demonstrating that Putin is off his rocker and his unpredictable demeanor coupled with his imaginary threats to Russia and perceived slight by leaders towards him is a threat not just to the west, but everyone
So the $5bn that the USA spent on funding the Nazi's in the Ukraine is in Putins head and so is the mess the USA has made in Libya, Iraq , Afgainistan.
Reports of deaths in Syria and the WMD lies about Assad is in putins head too
Someone is off his "rocker" allright and its not Putin
This $1 billion for Ukraine is a rip-off for the America taxpayer, but it is also a bad deal for Ukrainians, he wrote. Not a single needy Ukrainian will see a penny of this money, as it will be used to bail out international banks who hold Ukrainian government debt.
A longtime opponent of foreign aid, Paul has often criticized the concept for lining the pockets of rich citizens and the ruling class instead of helping the people its intended to.
In addition to funneling money towards the IMF plan, the bill includes funding for outlets such as Radio Free Europe and Voice of America, which Paul said have been used to broadcast US government propaganda into Ukraine for 10 years with little to show for the effort.
Recently a democratically-elected government was overthrown by violent protesters, he wrote. That is the opposite of democracy, where governments are changed by free and fair elections. What is shocking is that the US government and its NGOs were on the side of the protesters!
www.petition2congress.com...
I'd sure be happy if someone gave me money to pay off my loans!!!
originally posted by: VirusGuard
a reply to: ScientificRailgun
This money the US keeps giving out and calling it aid is in fact bribes and $5bn in the Ukraine is like having $25bn in the USA because it will buy you that much more.
Even if i agree that this was sent over a ten year period then would you explain why $500m a year was sent when you have americans dieing because they cannot offord medical treatment and the USA is running a debt at $18tr
The true debt is much higher than $18tr and the true amount they have spent is much higher than $5bn
When the USA spends money in Iraq , Syria, Afganistan , Libya it allways results in bombs of peace being dropped and the Ukraine is just the same but now the USA has been forced out in to the open to say it is sending tanks and men to the Ukraine to fight Putin and his men.
Don't get on to me if Russia sends a few nukes to the USA or that the silence of Germans against Hitlers actions resulted in them getting carbet bombed because its not my fault.
Nice deflection, by the way. "Oh well why is the U.S. spending money if they're in debt and U.S. people are homeless"
Russian official say that debts hamper the development of commercial and economic ties between countries. One may have an official approach to this problem. The debt and the pressure from a creditor may only boost the development of those ties. Many developing states are rich with natural resources, so they could successfully repay their debts with those resources. If they could not, then they would have to repay their debt plus interest to Russia, as international laws stipulate. France was waiting for a hundred years for the debts of tsarist Russia to be repaid. Why couldn't Paris just write those debts off during the Soviet era?
The French strongly refused to forgive the tsarist debt. The legal entity in the face of tsarist Russia, which borrowed money from France, stopped its existence. The USSR, which replaced tsarist Russia, refused to even say a word about it. The French could have written off the debt after the collapse of the Soviet Union. However, Russia fully repaid the tsarist debt to France.
english.pravda.ru...
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: lostbook
I say we may as well get it over with already. War is going to be constantly threatened by someone until another world war happens. This generation is not old enough to know what that looks like and once it happens it will become clear that we need to change....that is until a few more generations from now when it happens all over again. War is inevitable really....it will always happen, whether it be on a world scale or a country scale.
Their democratically elected ally getting overthrown by a western backed Nazi coup.
He's got every right to act in the manner he does.
Even if i agree that this was sent over a ten year period
but now the USA has been forced out in to the open to say it is sending tanks and men to the Ukraine to fight Putin and his men.