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Obama Tells Republicans to Expect Vetos for Bad Bills in 2015

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posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: buster2010

I caught you up. Don't try to correct it. You have already shown your partisan allegiance and now you try to pretend it's just a grammatical mistake? Please...




posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: buster2010

And his facts were wrong. The economy's failing, the jobs are less and less. Sorry...


That's odd, I though that the economy was growing. Dow Jones past 18,000, etc. Aha. Here.


Take out the bankers/wall street, Multinationals, Defense Contractors and drum roll please...........AND Government, those figures your so proud of won't look very promising at all.

If the economy and the working class are doing so well, then why the uproar to increase the minimum wage? Odd that some of you support Obama and praise these economic figures on one hand, and then turn around and scream bloody murder that people cannot live without a "living wage"?

By proudly stating these economic numbers aren't you just as evil and guilty as the GOP for pandering to corporations?

Take a good hard look at the amount of people on food stamps and those barely keeping their heads above the poverty level, then brag about how great the economy is doing!

Why leave out the plight of the little people? Oh the insanity of the those who believe in the left/right paradigm. The talking points of both parties are rife with hypocrisy!

As long as we stick up for any of these politicians and their corrupt policies, we might as well, ponder suicide as a viable option from living in the hell we have coming........



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

If you're advocating so hard for people to "do their own research", why not post up some of your OWN research, since apparently you are quite the subject matter expert in the field of doing your own research. Where are your sources that refute the numbers Intrepid has posted?

Post those, kindly. I'd love to see them, and I'm being totally serious.
edit on 29-12-2014 by ScientificRailgun because: grammar



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: buster2010

What do you think the most important issues are today?

Which ones will get vetoed or signed by Obama?


I think the first one that will get vetoed will be the keystone pipeline. The TPers and GOP are at odds with each other on immigration so we will have to see if they can get together long enough to actually get anything through.


That's a good example.

Probably true.

Lots of controversy with oil issues.

Maybe the recent price drop will affect political thinking?




posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963

Shhh the gods have spoken! Remember, the US gov puts out false numbers like they always have and the experts eat it up with a silver spoon because they believe anything the media tells them.

LOL bunch of morons.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: buster2010

Can you guys stop with the partisan nonsense. As if CNN doesn't make stuff up?

This is seriously the best you can do? Reference FOX and hope I hang my head in shame? Nice try guys.

FOX is a well known right wing propaganda source just like MSNBC is a left wing source. Those two are usually the references that is used on this forum when people refer to BS.


Those 2 could have more influence than we assume.

But from the election results, maybe we should look at the possibilities of how the Democrats got slaughtered.

Which MSM sources had the most influence?

FOX almost being a lone wolf against ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Nope, not personal at all... Just doing what's "best" for the majority of the citizens who voted him in.....



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

If you're advocating so hard for people to "do their own research", why not post up some of your OWN research, since apparently you are quite the subject matter expert in the field of doing your own research. Where are your sources that refute the numbers Intrepid has posted?

Post those, kindly. I'd love to see them, and I'm being totally serious.


Well what are the most important issues that Obama might be vetoing in the coming 2 years?

How will those affect the majority of citizens?

Or, what issues might the Republican Congress "ignore"?




posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:23 PM
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This thread is the perfect example of what's wrong in the USA today...

Harry Reid blocked a large number of bills the house passed (just like the gop did in the house) and yet the partisan hacks will only point a finger at the gop.

Under bush Jr, when the gop said the dow is doing well, democrats said that's not a hood indication of the economy. Now it's something many democrats point to as a strength.

The gop (wrongly in some cases) said no to many bills just because it was written by a Democrat.
The dems screamed about it for 6+ years, now

Obama says he's ready to veto anything he doesn't like. Then we have democrats saying what a good thing that is because the gop never does anything good.

Until we stop the division and find common ground we are all screwed and that is the only FACT that any rational American should be concerned about... Find the bloody common ground!



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I'm still reeling from my crushing defeat....

To calm my mind I called Boehner, Bush then the KKK because that's what all right wingers find solace in



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

Tell me about it, both parties are complicit. The whiners under Bush mostly keep their mouths shut now because there's a D after the pres's name. Or the anti war protesters, now they're sitting back going Shhh! it's not a war if Obama starts it, it's a mission of diplomacy! LOL



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:27 PM
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republicans are not that stupid...they will include all the laws they want changed, by putting them in "riders" to legislation that absolutely needs to be passed, like the next budget deal in 2015....if Obama doesn't sign on, then the government will shut down, and the republicans can claim that the democrats shut down the government. this should insure that the republicans take over the entire government in 2016...they have the supremes, the senate, the house, and now they will finally get the last puzzle piece with the presidency......with that, here will come privatized social security, massive cuts to Medicare, food stamps gone, housing subsidies gone, EPA gone, the new healthcare gone (everyone will be on their own), abortion made illegal, no new benefits except for the corporate and wealthy, who will get never-before-seen tax cuts....
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posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

The Keystone Pipeline and Immigration, I see are two major issues.

Frankly, I really hope he doesn't Veto the Keystone Pipeline. It would create a lot of jobs and do the U.S. a lot of good in the future.

Immigration I really don't care which way that goes. The U.S. is a nation of immigrants, so more of them really won't cause a collapse as some doomporn enthusiasts gleefully predict.


originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: xuenchen

I'm still reeling from my crushing defeat....

To calm my mind I called Boehner, Bush then the KKK because that's what all right wingers find solace in


Rather than mire yourself in hyperbole and satire, why not refute Intrepid's claims with facts of your own? I asked for them in an earlier post, and I eagerly await their appearance.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: jimmyx

I've been thinking along those lines. A question. Does the prez have to sign a bill as is? Can a rider be removed?



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:32 PM
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Personally I hope hope he does veto bills, especially ones that are bi partisaned and good for the masses. It will make the wave of Republican victories easier for 2016.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: ScientificRailgun

c'mon...how many workers do you think they will need to operate a pipeline?...geez, it's a couple of hundred at most for the few pumping stations, and part of those will be in Canada...why?....because it's just a pipeline!...and it's Canadian oil, we have no claim over it...actually I don't care if it gets built, we already have thousands of miles of pipe crisscrossing the US, just don't claim it's going to create all these "jobs"



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: jimmyx

I've been thinking along those lines. A question. Does the prez have to sign a bill as is? Can a rider be removed?



For a President to partially veto legislation is illegal.

The Supreme Court ruled against that some years back

It's called the "Line Item Veto".

Right now, that can't be done.

So Jimmy makes a good point.

Which party will benefit depends on the impact of the items IMO.




posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:37 PM
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a reply to: jimmyx

If it creates jobs they'll end up going to foreigners because they're cheaper to hire than real Americans.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: intrepid

LOL just stop it. The economy's horrible, if it grew so much where are all the jobs?

Know what's funny? How people automatically bring Fox into it like that' supposed to hurt us folks who realize both parties are defunct.

Nice try, not.


The only thing propping up the economy is the fed, gas is cheaper now only because the House of Saud is trying to kill fracking.

Wages are lower than ever, Debt is MORE than ever.

Sure has gotten jack snip to do with the tyrant in chief. now that he lost the DEMOCRAT held Senate that was blocking EVERYTHING the house tried to do.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: jimmyx

I've been thinking along those lines. A question. Does the prez have to sign a bill as is? Can a rider be removed?



you mean the "line item veto"?....it was struck down in 1996 by the supremes. and republicans now control that branch, so they will not do a thing to change it....here it is.....www.washingtonpost.com...




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