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Virgin Atlantic flight to Attempt a 'non-standard' Landing , Happening now.

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posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:21 AM
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Scary, these pilots have balls of steel. I always wanted to be a pilot, but life took me elsewhere. I hope the plane lands safely, they pretty much have this down to an art, dump fuel, come in really really slow, nose up for as long as possible, if its the front landing gear.




posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:26 AM
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A bit of a silly question, but does anyone know, when they ditch the fuel, do they fly somehere out of the way, not over houses. Guess thats the last thing people are thinking when in an aluminium pipe flying hundreds of miles an hour. Really doesnt matter where it gets ditched, if over farm land, or a lake, houses, someone is getting it. best case is over an ocean if ditching fuel I would think



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: doompornjunkie

It's been a while since I read up on it. But what they add to the fuel takes fire from being a concern in every emergency landing to, only the worst crash typically end up with a ball of fire.

It's a mitigating factor if memory serves me correctly.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: Glassbender777

From what I saw earlier they flew around in circles dumping fuel over Sussex , thr expert said it;s OK as the fuel would evaporate in the atmosphere but I don't think I'd want to be underneath a fuel dump.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: doompornjunkie

It's been a while since I read up on it. But what they add to the fuel takes fire from being a concern in every emergency landing to, only the worst crash typically end up with a ball of fire.

It's a mitigating factor if memory serves me correctly.


Maybe the FSME will have more detail. What I read was it was more or less an anti-static agent. Meaning it was more for safety during refueling, but not so much during a crash.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: Glassbender777

It's accepted that anything over 5k feet(according to military training I received)will evaporate before it hits the ground, though they do try and do a holding pattern in an out of the way place.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: Glassbender777

They usually dump over 10,000 or so. It evaporates before it hits the ground.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:38 AM
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From the looks of things they had a problem with the starbord mains.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:39 AM
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Just for reference.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:41 AM
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Ok thanks, just wondering. At 10,000 feet it would take the fuel a while to hit the ground, so I can see it getting evaporated and diluted in the atmosphere. Still dont think id want to be under that holding pattern or down wind.
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posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 11:05 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Didn't I see, in another thread, a story you shared about someone putting a fire out with fuel that had a very high flash point?



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 12:02 PM
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I'm surprised no one has suspected a conspiracy theory regarding all the problems Virgin has had.

It's almost as if .. intelligence services are .. proverbially dropping spike strips for them to 'deflate their tires'.

Why would any world powers, especially those of the host nation(s) of Virgin, allow their 'monopoly' on space to be broken, by an independent company not bound to the budgets, charters, and orders that national space programs, secret or not, have to deal with?

If you were an all-powerful ruler, would you allow your subjects to eventually travel to space, off of the planet, if at the time you were the only one that could send people to space?

If the only ships ever in the sea were official navy ships, do you think TPTB would let some new company build sailable ships and start sending people onto the sea?

Security! Security!



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: DAVID64

It was JP7, used by the SR-71. The flash point was so high they had to used TEB to ignite it.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 12:41 PM
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Most interesting thread, I have never flown and don't expect to, but one never knows.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: doompornjunkie

They've tried various additives to make fuel less explosive over the years. Usually it just turned out to be a spectacular failure.

I don't have all my info handy, but by far theost successful way to stop post crash fires is through an inserting agent in the tank. When sprayed into the tank it reduces the oxygen level to keep it from fire balling.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 01:03 PM
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Scary stuff for those on board! I've taken that very flight a couple of times!



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 06:28 PM
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Still trying to figure out how #3 engine didn't drag

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posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Do you think they may have dumped fuel only from the starboard and center tanks to have some ballast on the side of the aircraft without gear failure to help cantilever it on touchdown?



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 06:52 PM
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I think this show the point you made in the asian airline thread about the world of diffrence between the skill and experiance of a first world major airline and a budget 3rd world airline.


Good qualified pilots and crew can be the diffrence between a non incident and a catastrophy.

A family friend who worked as a pilot for virgin and BA said they train for landing gear trouble extrensivly.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: doompornjunkie

They've started adding inerting agents into fuel tanks, and fuel additives to increase the flash point of fuel.

About 20 years ago they thought they had it licked and at great cost they crashed an airliner with their 'wonder fuel' using remote control! Results: No difference in flames at all!



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