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Stupid Cops...?

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posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: Hushabye

My department has a former officer (he got fired) currently awaiting trial on drug charges. We arrested a deputy from another county that lives here on DV charges about two weeks or so ago.

I get your point, but the flip side is not all of us work for a department that's running around doing stop and frisks or taking bribes or beating people up. Some of us just have to do what we can when we can. Again, I see the correlation between the external view of Americans. That's a good perspective on it, and thank you. Honestly hadn't thought of it that way before.




posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 09:50 AM
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I think most rational people and it probably depends on personal interactions with cops too but most rational people understand that there's good cops... the problem is that bad cops are generally protected and some PDs it's more like organized crime or badges during the day and hoods at night. How can people ignore that because there's also good cops?

These are real issues that aren't going to go away, what I'd like to know is... what are good cops going to do about it?



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 09:58 AM
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Theres an Agenda to entice a civil war. To turn the police against the people an encourage greater militarization of police forces.

Maybe even enact mashal law if they are lucky. Using Racial tensions to break down society. In order to either topple the U.S economy or to make it vulnerable for greater asset aquirement for a lower price.

Like the Riots in greece a couple years ago. Tho this is likely to entice a New world Order.

As police officers, keep ur head on your shoulders and ignore the Shills.
This is your happy time on ATS, don't worry about work. Unless you are a murderer and relish in the loss of human life with such a profession but i doubt you would be posting on here if you didn't have a consious.

Hope old drunk pants made it home fine.
Bud needs to stop getting hammered in public, 3 DUIs... So close to the slammer hopefully he learned from that mistake.

his balls were this close to the ban-saw.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:01 AM
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I've never called a good cop a pig...


However I reserve my right to call a bad cop a pig & much worse.



Other than that, it's usually "no comment".

edit on 29-12-2014 by CharlieSpeirs because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:21 AM
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a reply to: Kali74

See my comment directly above yours. We do what we can, when we can. I'm not NYPD, so I can't fix their problems. You'd have to ask them.

In one six month stretch I arrested a captain in my own department for refusing to sign a ticket and a state police sergeant for DUI. So my answer to your question would be: holding the jackbags accountable for their actions, the same as we hold ourselves.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Shamrock6


We disagree and suddenly we're pigs and whatnot.

Being called names shouldn't surprise or offend you. My guess you get a lot of that already…

Nothing so offensive as a belligerent drunk.

We lock horns here because we disagree on whether the state is becoming too authoritarian or not, not whether you do a good job. You have set yourself up to represent the state during times when the state isn't looking so benevolent.





If you come to my station, I can hook you up with stickers and probably some cookies. How's that for benevolent?



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:23 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

If this is supposed to be an example of why the US criminal justice system isn't actually corrupt and illegitimate, it's a total fail.

LEO's routinely act as judge, jury and as we've all seen, executioner. It subverts the system to the point of illegitimacy. LEOs handle the evidence. They can't be trusted as a whole.

Tell a story about how LEO's arrested another LEO for violating their oath.

Good cops are irrelevant if they are accessories to the destruction of the US Constitution. That and public consent are the bedrock of a functioning system in a free society. If a vast majority of LEO's are interested in their oath of office it would seem that cameras and other sunshine laws would be embraced, not universally rejected and profusely bitched about.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:26 AM
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a reply to: InverseLookingGlass

Nothing you've said pertains to anything I said. At all. The entire point of the OP is that the hate speech and personal insults need to stop.

Thank you for your input



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6




In one six month stretch I arrested a captain in my own department for refusing to sign a ticket and a state police sergeant for DUI. So my answer to your question would be: holding the jackbags accountable for their actions, the same as we hold ourselves.


Honest question here: What/who protected you and your job while arresting a captain in your dept.? In most other jobs calling out your boss will get you fired. Is it a union thing?



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:31 AM
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I wold like to toss a story in there for this thread. The other day i was
working, going about my business as usual when 3 police cars pulled
up. They sat in the lot for a moment and one came in to ask me if
we could provide our services for a couple of fellows as they had
to arrest their friend and he was the only one with an ID.

In my line of work the one rule we simply cannot break is to provide
our services without an identification. Well i explain this and the
officer goes back outside while the two fellows come on in. A minute
or two later the the fellow who was under arrest was allowed to come
in, not handcuffed, with the officer simply standing beside the
door and watching so that he could use his ID for his friends.

I always say that i am lucky where i live as the police are much more
professional and not anywhere near as aggressive. These officers
did way more than they had to do, I hate to even mention it but
these were African Americans as well, the officers were all Caucasian.

In my eyes the police earn respect and our local force here has had
my respect for a long time. There have been bad apples here and
there but guess what? They were sent packing when it was figured
out. I even had a case when i was a teenager of a police officer
harassing my friends and i to no end. Pulling us over for things that
weren't even true, searching our car EVERY time. None of us even had
a record, he would tell us our break lights were out and once when he
left i had my friend check this and found out it was BS. That was the last
straw and i drove directly down to the police station with my friends and
each one of us took our turn and filled out a complaint. That officer never did
bother us again.

I think the extreme force some police use needs to stop but i also
think that departments like the one i am lucky enough to live near
need a reward of some kind.
edit on 29-12-2014 by bloodreviara because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:35 AM
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Your story reminded me to do what I have been intending to do for awhile.

I just wrote a thank you note and a note of support for the police officer who lives 2 doors down from me.

He is a young man, new to the force with a lovely young wife
we all were so happy when he moved in
we tell him when we go on vacation and
he keeps a special eye out for our houses

My mother who lives across the street from him says
she feels so much safer with him living there

I proudly remember the day he first brought home
"his car" to park in his driveway
never in the garage
which we love

I believe most police do their best to be fair and just in upholding the law.

People have put down my stat which is true in other threads:
1% of all black people murdered/killed are killed by police
1% of all white people murdered/killed are killed by police
95%+ of all people murdered/killed are killed by someone of their own race
while many many more blacks murder/kill other blacks
than whites murder/kill other whites
the stat where police step in is still
1% of blacks people killed are killed by police
1% of all white people killed are killed by police
Seems quite low to me, and fair and not racist at all

Do you know a police officer personally?
Have you given him/her concrete evidence that you know they are someone of good character who does his/her best to be fair/just?
If you do appreciate the police,
write a thank you note to an officer you know,
or take it to the local police station.
Right now, more than ever,
the police need to know
there are people out there who support and appreciate them.






edit on 11Mon, 29 Dec 2014 11:17:15 -0600am122912amk291 by grandmakdw because: change format spelling



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Well, I am sure that guy was thankful!
his wife too I bet.

s&f



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: doompornjunkie
a reply to: Shamrock6




In one six month stretch I arrested a captain in my own department for refusing to sign a ticket and a state police sergeant for DUI. So my answer to your question would be: holding the jackbags accountable for their actions, the same as we hold ourselves.


Honest question here: What/who protected you and your job while arresting a captain in your dept.? In most other jobs calling out your boss will get you fired. Is it a union thing?



Honest answer: he wasn't my boss, just worked for the same department. Being in the right helped, and him continuing to be a belligerent # didn't help his case. Nobody really went out of their way to help or hinder things in either direction. I didn't catch any heat for it, nor did I get any high fives. People who were present recognized he was showing his hind parts in a big way and most of "the word" that got out was that captain so and so had made an ass out of himself, and not really anything about what a # I was for doing the job.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: Darkblade71
a reply to: Shamrock6

Well, I am sure that guy was thankful!
his wife too I bet.

s&f



Thanks,

I wrote his wife her own thank you note
and told her to call us if she ever
needed anything
no matter how small.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Fair answer. I'm glad you didn't get into a mess over it. I just found your story interesting because I really don't know how exactly cops regulate each other.

Where I work some people do horrific things to other employees, yet if you say anything you are the black sheep. By horific I mean stuff like attempted rape.


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posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:57 AM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

Two part answer:

1) I am a LEO so yes I know several.

2) I think darkblade was responding to me/the initial post, but I will say thanks for taking the time. We have a few folks who call in to our dispatch on holidays and ask them to pass along a "thank you" to everybody working. That kind of thing goes a long way towards making a Christmas shift a little better.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 11:04 AM
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Just wanted to say thanks for doing it right.

As someone who got a ticket for doing the least illegal thing he could given the situation he was in, I appreciate that not all cops are total dicks.

Although in the last decade, I've only met one in person... and she was new.



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Yes so some cops do what they can, I get that and commend you for it but I'm wondering why you seem so annoyed that people are speaking out against bad cops. You know that some issues are severe so why is it bad for people to speak and protest against them? To me, the better question since you seem like a good cop... why aren't you also doing so?



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: doompornjunkie

I would say it's the department culture. Personally I think we have a good culture. Hotheads don't last long. Our brass works hard to keep us engaged with our community, and keep them engaged with us. We, by and large, don't have the "us versus them" mentality. We may complain about the "my cat is stuck in the gutter" calls, but we try to do it amongst ourselves and not in front of the caller or other civvies. As far as that little old lady is concerned, rescuing her cat is the highlight of our week (true story).

As for your job: that's nuts man. What in gods name do you do?!?
edit on 29-12-2014 by Shamrock6 because: Eta



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Shamrock6

Yes so some cops do what they can, I get that and commend you for it but I'm wondering why you seem so annoyed that people are speaking out against bad cops. You know that some issues are severe so why is it bad for people to speak and protest against them? To me, the better question since you seem like a good cop... why aren't you also doing so?


I am not Shamrock: but I want to put in my 2 cents here about what I see as why the people who are not speaking out are staying silent and supporting the Police.

Because people are not just speaking out

they are rioting
they are screaming for the death of officers in their protests
they are attacking the police physically
they are attacking the police verbally with awful garbage

I see no one
actually trying for
peaceful dialog

I see racial hatred being perpetuated
I see racial strife being encouraged
That is why I see

There is nothing wrong with addressing what people
perceive as an injustice

That is NOT what is happening right now.

What is happening now is ugly
it is divisive
and I wouldn't blame the
police if they quit their
jobs in mass
all over the US

If you believe there is something to prove to the police
then support MLK day/week "Blue Flu"
and encourage everyone to be on their best behavior
"to show" the police
what you want to dialog about.




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