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The repercussions if Homosexuality was found to be a medical condition

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posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 05:04 AM
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More importantly and certainly pertinent to many of the posts in this thread;

IF BIGOTRY WAS FOUND TO BE CURABLE WOULD THE BIGOTS IN THIS THREAD ACCEPT THE TREATMENT?

Well?
Would you?




posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 06:39 PM
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Whatever it is that determines people's sexuality is almost certainly biological in origin.
a reply to: Astyanax

If you don't have a link to back up the above then ........thus your post is of no merit at all.
I am not being combative but I am looking for hard data and facts.

Regards, Iwinder



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 07:03 PM
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In actuality the OP's suggestion has already occurred. There is a disease called CAH; Congenital adrenal hyperplasia. CAH begins in the womb where a baby gets an extra shot of testosterone. If a male baby has this occur they are usually shorter, have larger genitals and are more prone to have heart disease. A female baby is likely to be a homosexual or bisexual. There are other conditions that must be treated after birth like sweating issues.

Some doctors have advocated using a drug in utero (in the uterus) to correct this condition. There have been some lesbian groups that have objected. This is a controversial subject. I did not read the full article I am linking. But it does go into some of the debate and situation.

Perventing Homosexuality



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 07:03 PM
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a reply to: Iwinder

the main cause for being gay is oestrogen poisoning this is how the scum are keeping the population down.
they put chemicals that mimic oestrogen into our food and products like shampoo toothpaste and coffee

mercury, Sodium lauryl sulphate, BPA, legumes like soy and dairy products all mimic oestrogen in the body this in turn disrupts the chemical pathways there are other chemicals but these are the main ones, some people are affected by this others have pathways that excrete the poisons out of us and others fall to the chemical programming that is going on there are other factors that relate to this as well like pornographic video.



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: jinni73

Keeping the population down?
Not working is it?.
Gay people were about before all the chemicals put in our food.
It is around 5% has been forever.



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 09:28 PM
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a reply to: Iwinder


If you don't have a link to back up the above then ........thus your post is of no merit at all.
I am not being combative but I am looking for hard data and facts.

Of course you are being combative. I can recognize bigotry looking for a fight when I see it.

If there was hard data to prove that homosexuality was biological, I would not have said 'almost certainly'. As it happens, there is no conclusive proof of that. However, there is plenty of evidence.

Here is a link for you.



posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Iwinder


If you don't have a link to back up the above then ........thus your post is of no merit at all.
I am not being combative but I am looking for hard data and facts.

Of course you are being combative. I can recognize bigotry looking for a fight when I see it.

If there was hard data to prove that homosexuality was biological, I would not have said 'almost certainly'. As it happens, there is no conclusive proof of that. However, there is plenty of evidence.

Here is a link for you.


Thanks for providing that link and it was a good read but perhaps a bit Biased but much appreciated non the less.

No I am not being combative and in my other post above the reason I stated such was because of our neighbours next door whom happen to be very combative and very call the police every chance they get......Yep they are gay so what I say but count out all the neighbours who learned just like us to stay the heck away from them and their personal battles that they enjoy sharing in full view of all of us on our street.

Fight and scream all the time, If I start my truck on a cold morning to warm it up they call the cops.....yep indeed.
Pain in the arse they are!

Regards, Iwinder



posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 06:47 PM
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originally posted by: Iwinder

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Iwinder


If you don't have a link to back up the above then ........thus your post is of no merit at all.
I am not being combative but I am looking for hard data and facts.

Of course you are being combative. I can recognize bigotry looking for a fight when I see it.

If there was hard data to prove that homosexuality was biological, I would not have said 'almost certainly'. As it happens, there is no conclusive proof of that. However, there is plenty of evidence.

Here is a link for you.


Thanks for providing that link and it was a good read but perhaps a bit Biased but much appreciated non the less.


Uh yeah, that site is basically a Reparative Therapy site in disguise.



This website was created by people who believe that if you experience unwanted same-sex attraction, you have options—you don’t have to accept a gay identity. If you want to, you can resolve your same-sex attractions. Same-sex attraction is not an inborn and unchangeable condition like some people want you to believe. This website presents options and practical solutions to resolve the personal problems you face. There is hope. We know there are solutions because we have experienced them in our own lives, and there are thousands of people who have found the same success we have. We have developed this website to help you experience real change in your life, if that is what you want to do. Our motivation for resolving our same-sex attractions was spiritual, and therefore, we make reference to spiritual aspects of this process of growth out of same-sex attraction. Whatever your motivation may be, it must be strong and constant, since the struggle won’t be easy and will take a while.



posted on Jan, 2 2015 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

No parent of a minor should have legal rights to alter natural born chemistry.

However, if a legal adult wishes to alter their natural chemistry, they should have that choice.

If mental retardation can be cured this way parents have no right to do it?

As one poster already stated, it has to do with whether it's harmful or not. Far as I know, being homosexual doesn't harm you. Suicide rates might be higher in youth, but that's because of discrimination. So if retardation is natural and harmful then it probably should be cured if possible.

I've seen studies which speculate homosexual is net positive. Now, it might not be if EVERYBODY was homosexual, of course.

Here:
www.news-med ical.net - "Kin selection hypothesis" may explain homosexuality from an evolutionary point of view...

Male homosexuality doesn't make complete sense from an evolutionary point of view. It appears that the trait is heritable, but because homosexual men are much less likely to produce offspring than heterosexual men, shouldn't the genes for this trait have been extinguished long ago? What value could this sexual orientation have, that it has persisted for eons even without any discernible reproductive advantage?

One possible explanation is what evolutionary psychologists call the "kin selection hypothesis." What that means is that homosexuality may convey an indirect benefit by enhancing the survival prospects of close relatives. Specifically, the theory holds that homosexual men might enhance their own genetic prospects by being "helpers in the nest." By acting altruistically toward nieces and nephews, homosexual men would perpetuate the family genes, including some of their own.
...............

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posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 03:33 AM
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a reply to: Annee


that site is basically a Reparative Therapy site in disguise

I think you are mistaken. I didn't look over the whole site, but I saw no claims that homosexuality can be 'cured' or that people's sexual orientation could be altered.



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 03:35 AM
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a reply to: jonnywhite

The only negative thing about being homosexual is the homophobia it attracts.



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 03:42 AM
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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: jonnywhite

The only negative thing about being homosexual is the homophobia it attracts.


Well said good sir


Furthermore, one can help being gay no more than one can help being born Asian or of any other race one may care to reference.

edit on 3-1-2015 by markosity1973 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 12:22 PM
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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Annee


that site is basically a Reparative Therapy site in disguise

I think you are mistaken. I didn't look over the whole site, but I saw no claims that homosexuality can be 'cured' or that people's sexual orientation could be altered.


Reparative therapy does not claim homosexuality can be cured --- at least not the modern version. (I think it's now illegal to claim you can cure homosexuality).

It claims you can choose to live as a heterosexual.

It's a very sneaky website.

Here are the organizations affiliated with that site: www.samesexattraction.org...


edit on 3-1-2015 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: Annee


It claims you can choose to live as a heterosexual.

Well, of course you can. Countless homosexuals have done so throughout history, even having children in the process. I know a couple myself. One of them used to be my wife.

Regardless of the purpose and position of the web site, the facts I quoted from it remain facts.



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 11:36 PM
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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Annee


It claims you can choose to live as a heterosexual.

Well, of course you can. Countless homosexuals have done so throughout history, even having children in the process. I know a couple myself. One of them used to be my wife.

Regardless of the purpose and position of the web site, the facts I quoted from it remain facts.



What fact would that be? That it doesn't say anything about curing homosexuality? Of course it doesnt --- it's illegal to say that.

It's still a site promoting Reparative Therapy.



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 11:41 PM
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a reply to: boymonkey74
and keeping the population down is working you just don't understand all the variables going on and neither do I but I tell you there is stuff going on that would freak the majority of people out to the point where they do not want to look at the truth of their world even if it means them dying. just look at all the earthquakes they are doing so in one way you are right that its not effective enough but believe me they are trimming it all the time of course you don't have to believe me but I guarantee you Im a lot more aware than the majority on this planet
their have always been chemicals in our food mercury has been used for eons and obviously legume use why do you think the chinese never eat Soy even though it was used as a rotation crop for thousands of years?

your brain is HARDWIRED to reproduce and anyone who doesn't understand this needs to question why they don't?

and for the benefit of the people who have not educated themselves and fallen for the rubbish the schools teach you hardwired means the same as eating food or drinking so yes their has to be a factor involved that goes against your very essence if you are gay you are going against your reason to be alive so something must interfere that makes your brain malfunction

yes people are going to be gay or bi but it would be down to a genetic condition that has rewired their brain incorrectly or just having enough of women which is probably the real reason, to go against your brain does not make sense especially in earlier times when the population was a lot lower

so how do you know 5% of the population was always gay LOL they write history backwards everyone thinks jesus lived because they read it in a book and everyone else has fallen for it jesus most definitely did not live and the bible is pretty much a crock of ra ra ra

people are only too willing to believe what they are told as there brains have been supressed through toxins and chemicals and most don't want to take responsibility for themselves.



posted on Jan, 3 2015 @ 11:47 PM
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a reply to: Annee


What fact would that be?

The fact that there is no conclusive evidence for a physical difference between homosexuals and heterosexuals. Unless you count statistical correlates like relative finger length in lesbians.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 12:03 AM
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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Annee


What fact would that be?

The fact that there is no conclusive evidence for a physical difference between homosexuals and heterosexuals. Unless you count statistical correlates like relative finger length in lesbians.


You want to go with the lesbian finger? How about hair cowlic in men.

Enough indicators have been discovered to know homosexuality, at least in part, begins in the development of the fetus. Same as heterosexuality -- but different.

Conclusive? Like what causes left handedness?

There are lots of things in science that don't have conclusive proof.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 12:09 AM
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a reply to: SaturnFX

The Church ALREADY has some explaining to do about WHY they have altered HIS words...COUNCIL of NICEA chose ONLY those books THEY thought were pertainant to their faith ,HUGE fail.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 01:05 AM
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a reply to: Annee

Madam, your opinions, sage and profound as they may be, are of no concern to me. My post was addressed to someone else.


edit on 4/1/15 by Astyanax because: some people just don't know when to shut up, do they?



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