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Eustace Conway Mountain Man Under Zoning Scrutiny

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posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 11:45 AM
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Just some FYI for those of you that are familiar with Eustace Conway. This thread is not intended to be an introduction to Eustace but for those that don't know of him it wouldn't take long to familiarize themselves. I posted this for folks that know of him but may be unaware of his recent challenges.

"The Last American Man"



One of his better quotes from the below vid.....In reference to the zoning inspector..."He seemed like he didn't know how to quite understand our buildings".




Search warrant was issued to allow several agencies to drop in at one on Eustace. The word conspiracy is used by Eustace in the above vid.

Below vid Natural Law. In the name of public health and safety.




Thing to remember here is that Eustace doesn't have a big ol nasty mortgage, electric ect so he is out of so much of the system. Many may fear this as a trend. There is still a great deal of rural land in america where Eustace style living is and could become a reality.




posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 12:05 PM
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I think you may be wrong about the mortgage. He took out a loan to buy some land around him. Perhaps it is paid off by now but i suspect that some fine print in the papers he signed allowed them to have concern over his property. They need to leave him alone but let's be honest they have no need for someone who is not dependant on there system and they see the timber on his land as money to them if they get him to go under. Now they will start to fine him and allow the amount to get out of hand. Everyone should stand together for him.



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 12:23 PM
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There on him about spring water. Amazing. Hottest stuff right now is spring water.



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 12:48 PM
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Sounds like the main concern is he takes money from campers and offers courses to people on his land and in his buildings, so he runs a business. I imagine the law is pretty strict with regards to liability.



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 12:51 PM
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Eustace is a good man, never bothers his neighbors. I've known a good number of people that have gone to turtle island and learned valuable skills from him. It's a shame he has to undergo this kind of legal hassle but he's not the only person to have suffered it for trying to teach primitive living skills.

It's as if our modern society wants to divorce itself from it's own roots and heritage and replace it with this modern electric socialist model of conformity. We are doing ourselves and the planet a great disservice by abandoning tried and true methods that leave our connection to the Earth intact.



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 12:55 PM
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oh so he just needs a few privite property signs up on his buildings and a sign at the spring stating that the gov. has concerns about the spring water.


I think that if he gives in to them then it will just go bad though.
They just need to leave him alone.



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 03:49 PM
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Zoning and building code is something I know a lot about. In fact you might say knowing the code is a critical requirement to me doing my job. I absolutely empathize with Mr. Conway and if he was a hermit, living alone, I wouldn't care if he lived in a volcano. I would say he has a right to food, clothing, and shelter and that these are fundamental human rights and there is no law, by man, that can trump this. However; it appears that he has roommates. With that in mind, as the land owner, he has a legal responsibility to keep his tenants safe. This is a concept that is attributed to King Hammurabi (eye for an eye tooth for a tooth guy). So its a pretty old concept. Definitely predates settler days.
I watched about 70% of the videos the op posted (thank you for that). I have yet to hear about violations. I suspect that at least half of them have to do with the place being a fire trap and the other half are environmental. For instance the problem is NOT that the foundation is made of stone. It's the fact that in that climate you need a foundation that is at least 4'-5' deep to avoid building thrust when the ground freezes. His outdoor toilets are bad too. That has to do with polluting the ground water. You might say "it's just one guy". It's not. It's a hippie commune so its more than one, and besides if it's OK for them then its OK for everyone. And if it's OK for everyone, then we are back to industry dumping raw sewage in our drinking water.
Mr Conway said " Common sense isn't common anymore." Thats always been a load of B.S. Common sense used to say that the earth is flat and that maggots come from rotting meat. Science and education changed that perception. I heard Mr. Conway speak. He doesn't know ANYTHING about construction. Yes, I said it. But its seems that if you put a wholesome eco-spin on his ignorance then he becomes some kind of crusader.
Now there is legal recourse for him. He can hire an Architect or engineer to survey, document, and present the plans to the Board of Building Standards. All you have do is convince the board that your design addresses the SPIRIT of the code. Now he says he is poor and can't afford to hire a professional. Well there are a number of pro-bono organizations that can champion his crusade. But I suspect he is not going to find a lot of help out there for the same reason I wouldn't help him even if he paid me. I do what I do because I want to change the world for the better and to help people. I would love to hang out with Eustace and smoke some weed with him, but I am not going to help some ignorant fool to legalize his communal deathtrap.



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 04:03 PM
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Easy fix, i am sure he is on it now. Sounds like a nice place to visit. I may have to take a trip. Because i have a friend from there as well. As an inventor we can discus some ideas and inventions.



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 04:04 PM
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I just wanted to point out that the title of the op is misleading. Eustace Conway is not facing "Zoning" scrutiny, he is facing "Building Code" scrutiny. Building code has to do with life safety while Zoning is civil law as applied to land use. If you are a landlord and you tenants die from smoke inhalation, and you don't have have smoke detectors in your building, then you are facing criminal neglect and manslaughter charges. That's what the building code is all about. Now, if you build an addition that's too large according to zoning, well, I don't want to get to deep in to it, but that is when City hall milks you to death. Zoning is definitely the more B.S. of the two.

Other than that, thanks for the thread. I'm sure you can tell from my writing that this is a subject I am very passionate about.



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: Logarock

Take a good hard look at what progressive ideals really mean. It is about control and money. They want everyone to walk in a straight line and never question anything.



TPTB know what is best for you and your family. Eventually they will control every facet of your life if this continues unchecked. Men like this challenger the control system and sadly he will not win. Not enough people understand what liberty and freedom mean anymore.
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posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: SubTruth

Ohhh, do tell. What does liberty and freedom mean ?



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: PinealJockey

Thanks for your input for.....balance I suppose. Always good to have that.

I would like to point out, in regards to you calling his situation a "deathtrap" that hundreds die each year in modern and all coded up domestic structures. Smoke detectors are never a bad idea anywhere.



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: PinealJockey
a reply to: SubTruth

Ohhh, do tell. What does liberty and freedom mean ?






Individual rights over the rights of the masses. You actually own your property and the government can not take it away because of taxes or imminent domain.


The federal reserve would vanish and the the IRS would be reformed into something much,much smaller. A flat tax would be put in place in instead of the income tax. The government would not control 40% of GDP it should be under 10%.


This is just a few but in a nutshell you have the right to do whatever you want as long as it does not infringe on anothers right to do the same.........This is liberty.........This is freedom.
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posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 05:08 PM
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originally posted by: PinealJockey
a reply to: SubTruth

Ohhh, do tell. What does liberty and freedom mean ?



Well this idea that his guests cant eat the chickens they prepare is really just stupid and creepy.



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 05:14 PM
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originally posted by: SubTruth
a reply to: Logarock

Take a good hard look at what progressive ideals really mean. It is about control and money. They want everyone to walk in a straight line and never question anything.




Saw a show the other day. Building inspector here in US was enforcing UN building codes on simple domestic structure. On a house, new build. Thats not even legal really.



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: PinealJockey

Thanks for your input for.....balance I suppose. Always good to have that.

I would like to point out, in regards to you calling his situation a "deathtrap" that hundreds die each year in modern and all coded up domestic structures. Smoke detectors are never a bad idea anywhere.






When the government tries to save people from themselves it always fails. Does the government have the right to tell you what to do as long as you are not infringing on anothers rights..........NO.



This is why the PTB push the rights of the masses over individual rights. They can say it for the greater good of society.........YA RIGHT.



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 05:18 PM
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a reply to: Logarock

Everyone reading this should take a good hard look at agenda 21 and what it really means. Remember your liberty is an individual right not a group right.
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posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: SubTruth


Yes when one backs up and looks at this from a distance......we have a man up in the hills, remote, teaching folks how to live off the land, a school of sorts. I could see where that would concern some of the "strange ones"....bureaucrats, control freaks ect.

The idea that you could survive off the grid, out of supermarkets, with no electricity ect to any degree just aggravates some. Might catch on. Not talking about novel ides like home gardens and urban chickens but a real lifestyle and living philosophy.



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 05:45 PM
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What are the dates on your information?

You did not provide a link.

Last I heard he was given an exempt status. For at least some building restrictions.



posted on Dec, 27 2014 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Yes Annee he did end up getting exemption by a state bill no less. Unanimously passed by state house and senate.




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