I give you rare look into Russian intellectuals talk "How to hit USA"

originally posted by: Cauliflower
a reply to: 8675309jenny

Completely wrong. Firstly for the "global recovery" reasoning

Don't underestimate the ATS readership they know trolls when they see them.

Many people here understand SAW Zimmermann.

The global involvement started much earlier around the time Edgar Allan Poe lost the bar fight.
I don't expect everyone on ATS to understand the conspiracy but if you

You might start seeing the

So what exactly are you on about????

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: MALBOSIA

He fled the country when he was going to be shot by violent protesters. The Gaddafi snuff film may have had some baring on his decision.

He fled the country after ordering protesters to be violently shot.

Pics or it didn't happen

a reply to: DJW001

Actually, it's the opposite of what happened prior to WW2. Germany's economy was in a shambles, its currency was hyper-inflated and they were hopelessly in debt to the victor nations.

Yes in 1932 but Hitler kicked the jewish bankers out and then had boom years needed to finance the build up to war.

63% of banks in Germany were owned by jewish banker and that was doing more damage than the debt owned to the victor nations from WWI but as you know the victors get to write history and they don't want people to know about the bankers.

Even if it was by mistake, Hitler did do a few good things now and then.

a reply to: VirusGuard

63% of banks in Germany were owned by jewish banker and that was doing more damage than the debt owned to the victor nations from WWI but as you know the victors get to write history and they don't want people to know about the bankers.

Where to begin?

Even if it was by mistake, Hitler did do a few good things now and then.

Wow! You're being unusually honest about your politics this morning.

a reply to: 8675309jenny

Elena Ivanovna Diakonov was a Russian intellectual who married Salvador Dali the Surrealist painter.
The Dali's spent some time in the US working with the military as did many artists.
Here is a picture said to be taken in Virginia at the estate of Caresse Crosby.



Elena had an inside track on Russian politics which Dali exploited.
This better WW2 themed painting ended up in Munich after the war.
Probably the source of those stories that explain how a vzhóden pole vaulter escaped to West Germany.




I'm still not sure how Putin plans on "Hitting USA"??

The Russian Ruble is barely strong enough to be legal tender.

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originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: MALBOSIA

He fled the country when he was going to be shot by violent protesters. The Gaddafi snuff film may have had some baring on his decision.

He fled the country after ordering protesters to be violently shot.

Pics or it didn't happen

What is that video supposed to show? Complete lawlessness and a good reason for the President to flee for safety? Can you imagine OWS acting like that? What a bunch of thugs and these are the guys that support the current Ukraine government? No wonder everyone turned their back.

a reply to: DJW001

Wow! You're being unusually honest about your politics this morning.

The Dali painting I posted is themed after one of Richard Wagner "The Ring of the Nibelung" operas.
Composer Richard Wagner and German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche did a famous cypher rap in the 1880's.

Hitler loved Richard Wagner and so did Herzl father of Zionism.

The fall of Berlin is sometimes described allegorically as the Götterdämmerung.

Brünnhilde issues orders for a huge funeral pyre to be assembled by the river. She takes the ring and tells the Rhinemaidens to claim it from her ashes, once fire has cleansed it of its curse. Lighting the pyre with a firebrand, she sends Wotan's ravens home with "anxiously longed-for tidings"; they fly off. After an apostrophe to the dead hero, Brünnhilde mounts her horse Grane and rides into the flames.

This cypher did not stop at the gates of the trendy artistic intellectual crowd.
In 1944 a film was made for the Hitler Youth with child star Hardy Kruger.
He was charged with producing new cockpits for the Heinkle aircraft to replace those lost "after the fire".

Today we have fly by wire cockpits navigating with "ring laser gyros" that were secretly developed years ago.
All kinds of great UFO lore surrounding the RLG, frame dragging, leftover 17 Hz signal etc.etc.



I've seen FIRE in 1944.

Hardy Kruger came back to star in another plane movie "flight of the Phoenix" 1965, talk about type casting...

Maybe when one of the snails finally kills K4 we can debunk a few UFO sightings.

originally posted by: Cauliflower
a reply to: DJW001

Wow! You're being unusually honest about your politics this morning.

The Dali painting I posted is themed after one of Richard Wagner "The Ring of the Nibelung" operas.
Composer Richard Wagner and German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche did a famous cypher rap in the 1880's.

Hitler loved Richard Wagner and so did Herzl father of Zionism.

The fall of Berlin is sometimes described allegorically as the Götterdämmerung.

Brünnhilde issues orders for a huge funeral pyre to be assembled by the river. She takes the ring and tells the Rhinemaidens to claim it from her ashes, once fire has cleansed it of its curse. Lighting the pyre with a firebrand, she sends Wotan's ravens home with "anxiously longed-for tidings"; they fly off. After an apostrophe to the dead hero, Brünnhilde mounts her horse Grane and rides into the flames.

This cypher did not stop at the gates of the trendy artistic intellectual crowd.
In 1944 a film was made for the Hitler Youth with child star Hardy Kruger.
He was charged with producing new cockpits for the Heinkle aircraft to replace those lost "after the fire".

Today we have fly by wire cockpits navigating with "ring laser gyros" that were secretly developed years ago.
All kinds of great UFO lore surrounding the RLG, frame dragging, leftover 17 Hz signal etc.etc.

I've seen FIRE in 1944.

Hardy Kruger came back to star in another plane movie "flight of the Phoenix" 1965, talk about type casting...

Maybe when one of the snails finally kills K4 we can debunk a few UFO sightings.

Please translate to English

a reply to: MALBOSIA

What is that video supposed to show? Complete lawlessness and a good reason for the President to flee for safety? Can you imagine OWS acting like that? What a bunch of thugs and these are the guys that support the current Ukraine government? No wonder everyone turned their back.

It shows Ukrainian security forces murdering Ukrainian citizens; Yanukovych's lawlessness. After destroying the economy and murdering his fellow countrymen, it is no wonder he fled for his life. Too bad Putin rewarded him for his failure by murdering him in turn.

I would like to put a different spin on this, the Russian Citizens and Western Citizens should team up and throw out their respective governments for a start. Then we join forces and use all our wealth, experience and intellect to fix the problems of this world and mandate the following...

1. Eliminate all Debt
2. Eliminate all taxes
3. Outlaw any Company who's model is based on Warfare
4. Outlaw all Lobby groups
5. Outlaw any Company who does not have mankind's long term future as its #1 mantra
6. All military budgets to be cancelled
7. All nuclear stockpiles to be dismantled immediately
8. Current Military Personnel to be all sent home to their Country of origin
9. Every Sanction to be lifted.
10. Intellectuals elected to represent their Country/People and an immediate council convened without any interference from NATO, UN, WB or any other existing corrupted entity to begin the immediate remediation of the planet and its resources so that it can benefit all of mankind, animals, plants and environment.

We are closing in on the POINT OF NO RETURN! if stupid people are allowed to continue running ( ruining ) the Planet then expect stupidity to end us!

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: MALBOSIA

What is that video supposed to show? Complete lawlessness and a good reason for the President to flee for safety? Can you imagine OWS acting like that? What a bunch of thugs and these are the guys that support the current Ukraine government? No wonder everyone turned their back.

It shows Ukrainian security forces murdering Ukrainian citizens; Yanukovych's lawlessness.

No it doesn't. Did you even watch the video you posted? It shows violent protesters assaulting police with rocks. At the beginning it shows protesters shooting off a gun and pretending to take cover but no bullets go near the protesters.

In the video you posted, protesters are the only ones doing acts of violence.

I'm not so intellectual so I have an option C It is rude and crude lol

Within 3 days
1. Russia mobilizes everyone
2. Russia hides in bunkers, disperse everyone in Siberia, remote holes etc
3. On the 4-th day Russia nukes USA.

4. Russia takes the blame and says they are new Germany and willing to say "sorry" for the next 70 years.

a reply to: kitzik

If that happened there would be no Russia, just a very large parking lot next to Siberia.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Having just two options is a dull scenario.

Russia should invest time and research into option C, making contingency plans. Anyway option A at the end is almost like C.
The problem with Russia they will never make serious preparations for the worst case scenario.

USA already declared war on Russia, sanctions are the act of war. So, Russia should take all options to be ready.

Yeah it sucks so many would love to see the entire world destroyed, rather than working together towards the benifit of all.

Universal love trumps universal hate, there is no future in the destruction so many are eager to see.

I reccomend we disarm our nuclear knuckleheads and let russia and the rest of the worlds people follow suit before we allow the super villans who have always been in charge to destroy us all like some plot out of a silly James Bond movie.

a reply to: kitzik

Russia declared war when they illegally invaded the Ukraine.

As far as sanctions go, you are looking in the wrong place, Saudi Arabia is the only one with effective sanctions, not the US. And the US oil sector is also being hurt, but since Obama is worthless he is willing to let it happen because he can't figure out how to deal with Putin himself.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

The US disarmed at a much faster pace than Russia. US disarmament did not get Russia to also disarm, why would they?

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

The conversations with you are futile. You and me have different views of who is to blame.
I think that USA was the one that cheated russians with disarmaments, you may think otherwise.

My comments are for the topic starter, since he have access to the "Putin ear" lol

a reply to: kitzik

We have actual data about disarmament. Your beliefs do not matter when confronted with actual facts. No country will ever disarm, because doing so would be suicide. It's the international version of the prisoners' dilemma.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
The US disarmed at a much faster pace than Russia. US disarmament did not get Russia to also disarm, why would they?

No we the people outlaw all weapons of mass destruction the end.

We need to stop those who would destroy the very world we live on, when I say we, I mean we the people.

Counting on the military to disarm themselves is like asking the police to disarm themselves.
Or asking a criminal to police themselves, it aint going to happen.

They have more weapons to destroy the world more than 1000 times over would be my guess, sheer lunacy.

Why destroy the world? Seriously why have weapons to destroy the entire world over and over and over, then as if thats not enough we are still making more deadly weapons of mass destruction?

Its beyond insane yet so many support worldwide destruction. . .