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I give you rare look into Russian intellectuals talk "How to hit USA"

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posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: 8675309jenny

Trying to keep the thread on topic.

The German "intellectuals" were split up at the end of WW2.
Operation paperclip imported 1,600 men to the US from Germany, as part of the intellectual reparations at the end of the war. That project was a rich source of UFO lore.

en.wikipedia.org...

The Russians raided the German Rocket, and secret mil tech sites and collected Nazi personnel and technology as well.

www.russianspaceweb.com...

Much of the technology for the space race, and Cold war can be traced back to that split.






edit on 29-12-2014 by Cauliflower because: (no reason given)




posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 09:55 PM
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The intellectuals assume much.
All VERY bad ideas that will leave Russia mostly uninhabitable.
If they play China they will do MUCH better you see the United States needs the BAD guy to shoot first,so it's all LEGAL to kill the enemy.
Putin saw the spineless POTUS and got the port he wanted,the rest is smke for the masses.
Russia is now just a regional power and yes NATO has surrounded her.


I hope they don't get any bright ideas beyond just "thinking".



posted on Dec, 29 2014 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: humanityrising

They view that as surrender. From the opposing side it's easy to see your way of life as good and wonder why they just won't surrender and accept it.



posted on Dec, 30 2014 @ 05:45 AM
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originally posted by: criticalhit
My gosh, as usual on ats... crap from the book of revelations


This is not "crap" because of similarities in texts of christian enemies. Some jewish sabbatean sects leading by jewish kabbalistic book Zohar considered as an enemy the wicked Babylon:

zohar.pe.hu...=zohar/zohar&vol=2&sec=41.html

224. There are five races of mixed multitude. These are the Nefilim (fallen), the Giborim (mighty), the Anakim (giants), the Refaim (shades) and the Amalekim. Because of them, the small Hei fell from its place, NAMELY FROM BINAH. Bilaam and Balak come from the side of Amalek, because if you remove the letters Am from Bilaam and the letters Lamed-Kof from Balak (Bet-Lamed-Kof), you are left with Bavel (Bet-Bet-Lamed), which is Babylon. "Therefore is the name of it called Bavel; because Hashem did there confound the language of all the earth" (Beresheet 11:9).

225. These are the ones who remained of those of whom it was said at the time of the flood, "And he destroyed every living substance" (Beresheet 7:23) Those who survived, THE KLIPAH OF AMALEK, from the time of the fourth exile--NAMELY THE EXILE OF EDOM--became the leaders (lit. heads) of the world, men of great power. THIS IS BECAUSE THIS KLIPAH IS CONSIDERED THE HEAD AND KETER OF THE KLIPOT. They became a means of violence toward the children of Yisrael and of them, it is written at the time of the flood, "For the earth is filled with violence through them" (Beresheet 6:13). These are the Amalekim.



posted on Dec, 30 2014 @ 06:58 AM
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Completely wrong. Firstly for the "global recovery" reasoning


Don't underestimate the ATS readership they know trolls when they see them.

Many people here understand SAW Zimmermann.

The global involvement started much earlier around the time Edgar Allan Poe lost the bar fight.
I don't expect everyone on ATS to understand the conspiracy but if you



You might start seeing the




posted on Dec, 30 2014 @ 07:27 AM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7



All VERY bad ideas that will leave Russia mostly uninhabitable.


So the 5,000 plus nuke missiles they have pointing back at the USA with 6 war heads in each missile will just drop into the sea will they now.

Hate to break it to you but Russia is way ahead of the USA when it comes to missiles and i know this is hard to beleive because the US tax payer is being robbed of a fortune in the form of taxes to pay for all these "Defensive systems" that the USA is trying to install all over the globe but this still remains a fact.

One little Nuke in washington would end the rule of the zionist bankers over your country and another dropped on Isreal would end them for good.

This MAD thing cuts both ways and half the world now is calling the bankers bluff



posted on Dec, 30 2014 @ 07:36 AM
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a reply to: Rocker2013



Many Russian politicians and business leaders (often the same circle) have been pretty much against Putin since the invasion of Ukraine, and now more so as they see their businesses failing due to sanctions.


Russia did not invade the Ukraine else we would had seen something like the D-Day landings on our screens and Russia does not have 91 million people without work that all need social payments to feed themselves or $18tr in debt like the USA so don't count your chickens too soon if you think that Russia has lost.

The currency of the USA is food stamps and the trading of cheap slave labour wrapped up in credit default swaps and that little bomb is about to go bang



posted on Dec, 30 2014 @ 07:44 AM
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originally posted by: VirusGuard
a reply to: Rocker2013



Many Russian politicians and business leaders (often the same circle) have been pretty much against Putin since the invasion of Ukraine, and now more so as they see their businesses failing due to sanctions.


Russia did not invade the Ukraine else we would had seen something like the D-Day landings on our screens and Russia does not have 91 million people without work that all need social payments to feed themselves or $18tr in debt like the USA so don't count your chickens too soon if you think that Russia has lost.

The currency of the USA is food stamps and the trading of cheap slave labour wrapped up in credit default swaps and that little bomb is about to go bang


Anti-USA ranting does not change anything.
Russia broke international law, it invaded a sovereign nation, you know it, I know it, the whole damn world knows it. I don't claim that the USA is some shining beacon of economic stability and success, no country on Earth is that right now. But, and you can deny it all you like, the Russian economy is struggling due to Putin's Soviet Romanticism and his incursion into a neighbouring nation.

I don't expect any rational debate from you on this, because you're clearly a pro-Russian poster who will do and say anything to deflect, distract, divert and otherwise damage any healthy debate on the state of international politics regarding Russia.

Frankly, my time is more important.



posted on Dec, 30 2014 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: Rocker2013
Russia broke international law, it invaded a sovereign nation, you know it, I know it, the whole damn world knows it.


It is US propaganda. Russia helps russian nation of Crimea to implement referendum. That nation has right to
self-determination after unlawful armed coup in Keiv.



posted on Dec, 30 2014 @ 11:21 AM
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Anti-USA ranting does not change anything.


If facts are ranting then i am guilty



Russia broke international law, it invaded a sovereign nation, you know it, I know it


When refering to "international law" are you talking about international law made up by the USA that allows the use of secret prisons and the use of torture or the real "international law" than never condems Israel

Please show me something like the D-Day landings or the "Shock and Awe" from Iraq or even a little bit of action like we get in Afginistan that shows Russia invading the Ukraine ? Anything like that will do but in the mean time do not exspect me to agree with your statement.



the Russian economy is struggling


Russia does not have $18tr in debt or 91 million people of working age that don't have jobs or is it bombing anyone that won't use the rubble to sell oil in or fracking operations going bust all over the place.

Russia is freinds with China who is now the worlds bigest economy so i don't see any knockout blow quite just yet do you



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 12:06 AM
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originally posted by: VirusGuard

Russia did not invade the Ukraine else we would had seen something like the D-Day landings on our screens

Yes, because that is exactly what happened when Russia invaded Georgia. Wait, no it didn't. Or are you saying that invasion never happened either?



posted on Dec, 31 2014 @ 03:23 PM
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a reply to: VirusGuard

For all intents and purposes they REALLY don't exist. If used MAD IS in play this time with some NASTY exotics backing them up.They are FAR more afraid of our black arsenal that what they know of.



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 07:25 AM
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originally posted by: Velom
Meanwhile, the European Union is getting stronger everyday. The EU is a good example of how a peaceful, global civilization can get started. Russia, China, America. They are all too big and they all want too much power for themselves. They hold too much ''pride'' in who they are and their heritage, while this nationalistic pride is nothing more than a cultural illusion.

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The EU is collapsing as we speak .. it is not a benign peaceful organisation.

Their mandatory control of the joint currency has destroyed Greece, Cyprus, Spain, Italy and France is not far behind.

These countries gave up their central banks and control of their currency when they joined the Euro .. what this means is that the Euro is artificially high .. kept that way for the benefit of Germany.

Why did the EU take over many of the old USSR countries ... why did they join the European Union .. ????

I remember the days of the old iron curtain and the USSR and I think it is preferably to what we have today .. an unstable bankrupt Europe and an angry ostracised Russia ... yes the EU is out to get Russia .. but the EU is not the people it is the government and yes they have a sinister agenda.

Why have the EU finances not been audited ???

It is not peaceful .. it is scary and it is sowing the seeds of the next war in Europe and it is by design .. Hitler wanted a united Europe headed by Germany.

The EU is carrying out his plan.



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 07:29 AM
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originally posted by: Velom
a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Let it come I say. I'm armed with enough arguments on why it's true.


We don't need arguments ...we have eyes and we have seen how things have changed .. thanks to the EU.

Life is much worse in the UK thanks to the EU .. life in the 70s 80s and 90s was much much better, richer, less crowded, less stressful ... the EU changed all that DELIBERATELY !!!!



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 07:39 AM
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originally posted by: HelenConway

originally posted by: Velom
a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Let it come I say. I'm armed with enough arguments on why it's true.


We don't need arguments ...we have eyes and we have seen how things have changed .. thanks to the EU.

Life is much worse in the UK thanks to the EU .. life in the 70s 80s and 90s was much much better, richer, less crowded, less stressful ... the EU changed all that DELIBERATELY !!!!


But Britain is not part of the Eurozone. All of your economic problems are due to British, not European, mismanagement.



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 07:41 AM
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a reply to: antikob




It is US propaganda.


No Russia really invaded Ukraine, it isn't just US propaganda.



Russia helps russian nation of Crimea to implement referendum.


You may want to look at a map, because Crimea was and is still part of Ukraine.



That nation has right to
self-determination after unlawful armed coup in Keiv.


And they have the right to live without the fear of having to live under the Russian rule again. And there was no coup as the president left his post and responsibility when he fled the country while being impeached.

And the Crimean referendum was a farce admitted to by Putin/s own government.



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 07:45 AM
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a reply to: VirusGuard


Russia is freinds with China who is now the worlds bigest economy so i don't see any knockout blow quite just yet do you


Let's see what Russia's friends really think of Putin's economy:


In a bold move, the Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has declared that national transactions should not be settled in Russian ruble.

Lukashenko is of Vladimir Putin's closest international allies, but has stated that all Belarusian trade should be settled in dollars or euro from here on in.

Speaking to Belarus official news agency Belta, the hard-line dictator said: "We're going to trade not in rubles, but in dollars. We should have long ago demanded Russia pay us also in hard currency."


www.ibtimes.co.uk...

Yep, Putin has America running scared.



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 07:48 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

That is not true at all !!!!

Well it is partly true .. in so far as we have an incompetent government who rule .. not to serve but to gain as much power and money as possible.

It is complicated but the EU has increased the population in Britain [ a small island ] by millions of people .. our schools, roads, hospitals are too crowded ..

We pay more money in each year then we get back .. so we make a net loss from our contributions to the EU.

Anyway .. read my post a bit more carefully ... I was discussing how the EU has destroyed much of Southern Europe and this will be closely followed by France.

EU led by the Germans .. the currency controlled from Germany .. to benefit German exports .. the rest of the EU collapsing in Germany's wake ... does this sound familiar ....?????

This is close to what happened prior to WW2



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 07:55 AM
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a reply to: VirusGuard




When refering to "international law" are you talking about international law made up by the USA that allows the use of secret prisons and the use of torture or the real "international law" than never condems Israel


Ah yes secret prisons and torture...do you remember Chechnya?

tchetchenieparis.free.fr...

Russian torture and genocide...why aren't you outraged about that?



posted on Jan, 1 2015 @ 07:58 AM
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Let's see what Russia's friends really think of Putin's economy:


Interesting that one of Russia's closest allies wants to use the US dollar when dealing with Russia and not the Ruble.

That doesn't show too much confidence in the Russian economy, but can you blame them?




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