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Ukraine More than 75% disapprove govs austerity measures,lowering standard of living: Readers poll

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posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 01:40 PM
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What The Westren News Outlets arent reporting. Before you say its Russian Propaganda i do highly suggest that you read it before commenting on it.

Ukraine More than 75% disapprove govs austerity measures,lowering standard of living: Readers poll
Ukraine More than 75% disapprove govs austerity measures,lowering standard of living: Readers poll



The Vesti newspaper reported on Thursday, citing a survey by the US-based Gallup company, that Ukrainians rate their current lives at a 4.3 on average on the 10-point scale, down from 4.8 in 2013, and the lowest ever measured since 2000s.





Some 66% of respondents in western Ukraine said the country’s economy is getting worse, compared with 55% last year. The majority of citizens in south-eastern Ukraine (80%) said the country’s economy has weakened by 20%, year-on-year.


As usual this kind of a report has being avoided by the westren news outlets whom being targeting Russia by claiming that it has invaded Ukraine.

For the past two months alone ordinary Ukrainians whom dont have ties to any of the fascist camps have being protesting agaisnt the favored Pro Euporean Government.

CNN poll claims Future Lives Better? Nice Joke Though,

On the CNN poll itself CNN somehow claimed the following statement.



Current life ratings poor, future lives slightly better

This is the same CNN poll which claimed that Iraqi future lives would be slightly better after the war in Iraq turns out the poll was wrong the same thing what they stated about the Balkans.

The point is, CNN wont let them remind them that when your in the EU your lives wont be slightly better. Just ask the Greeks and anyone whom has being with the EU for a while.

Anyway this is the future of Ukraine nothing but austerity measures and major high unemployment rate for the youth what makes you think the EU cares about giving jobs to the youth? they dont.




posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 01:41 PM
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If you dont like the source surely you can google it.



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 01:55 PM
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Surprise Surprise....a country getting invaded with huge sections carved off by it's neighbor is facing difficult economic times and people are upset.

Surprise Surprise...a country who was trading 3/4 of everything it made to one country is in economic trouble now that it's past friend invaded and isn't allowing free trade anymore.

The number of ex-Soviet countries that joined the EU and are now prosperous provides overwhelming evidence that you are wrong. Ukraine will, given enough time and support, follow Poland, Chech, Slovakia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, East Germany, and on and on.
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posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: noeltrotsky

I gave you a star for the humor, now let me respond to your claims that The number of ex-Soviet countries that joined the EU are now prosperous.

It seems that you didn't even bothered on reading the article. No matter.

Seems that you have forgotten to mention and stated to the other readers in here that all those ex-Soviet countries that you claim that are now according to your own words "prosperous" forget to mention these are the same nations whom are experiencing the following.


1.High unmploment rate and unmploment increasing for the youth.
2. Funny and how comical your trying to be by suggesting that these same ex-Soviet countries are now prosperous while you forge to mention that these same EU ex-soviet states have fully being introduced to the austerity measures.

I will give you the information, you seem to be desperate defending the EU and this Ukrankian government as a new member of the forum which i am not surprised.




Poland Jobless Rate 11% & Rising



Unemployment Rate in Poland increased to 11.40 percent in November of 2014 from 11.30 percent in October of 2014. Unemployment Rate in Poland averaged 13.60 percent from 1990 until 2014,


See? how can you call this being "prosperous" ?

Same thing in Slovakia and Chech,Estonia, etc.

Surprise Surprise....a country getting invaded with huge sections carved off by it's neighbor is facing difficult economic times and people are upset.
Did you even bother on reading it? the Ukrainians are upset because of your beloved Euporean style austerity measures that they placed upon the Ukrankian people thats why they are upset.

Oh and please dont start by claiming its because Russians invaded Ukraine claim if Russia invaded they would already taken Kiev by now but i guess you wouldnt mind if NATO takes over Ukraine do you?



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 03:57 PM
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a reply to: noeltrotsky

The Pro EU idiots in Lithuania must be loving the ever increasing jobless rate as they do in Italy.

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posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: noeltrotsky

Your right though those ex-soviet states are all "prosperous" all right if you mean considering the countries pro westren leaders that is.

The regular folks dont have jobs, unless you consider that prosperous to.
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posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 04:00 PM
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a reply to: noeltrotsky




ex-Soviet countries that joined the EU and are now prosperous provides overwhelming evidence that you are wrong Poland, Chech, Slovakia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, East Germany


LOL

Funny guy.



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 04:56 PM
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Yes the people are turning on Kiev so unless the USA stups up a lot more on top of the $5bn it has already spent in creating the conflict then it won't have much to show for its efforts to poke the bear.

People in Europe realy are not very happy about the bankers from the USA trying to start a conflict over here and how they keep trying to tell us what we can and cannot do.

Bake that one into the pie Mr Obama



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 05:13 PM
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As a person living in the EU i welcome Ukraine into this SH*THOLE.
Don't forget to bring your own lube!
It's becoming so terrible that i really hope for the economy to crash because the future is looking a hell lot worse. Let it all burnnnnnnnnn



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: VirusGuard
Bake that one into the pie Mr Obama

It's not a pie, it's more of a Russian Crumble.



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 06:49 PM
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Let me see if I got everything straight, lol.

1) Coup in the Ukraine mainly due to the fact that it's elected government wanted closer ties to Russia than to the west.
2) West accuses Russia of trying to invade the Ukraine without providing proof of said invasion and installs a puppet president.
3) West denies the sovereignty vote from the crimea even though the west has always claimed that each person has the right to self-determination (In this case their decision to join Russia).
4) West starts economic sanctions against Russia for it's supposed/imaged invasion of Russia.

Please tell me if I'm warm or cold on any of these statements and please feel free to add anything I missed.



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 06:56 PM
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The citizens of a country that is not only embroiled in a civil war but being invaded by a neighboring country are reporting that their lives are worse off? No way! This is very surprising!



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter

Compared to Russia and the satellite states, whose governments are controlled by Russia (like Moldova, Belarus as well as Ukraine due to being under Russian influence for so long), other ex-soviet countries have significantly higher life standards. GDP per capita is higher, salaries are higher, corruption is lower etc etc. People live far better, being able to afford more, live in more beautiful cities.

I am personally from Estonia. I have been to Russia as well as Moldova. Both of these countries are in far worse condition than Baltics or Poland. Roads, houses are generally in poor condition, most not having been renovated in decades. Everything is somewhat on the verge of collapse. People are overally much poorer. Poverty rates as well as crime rates are significantly higher. I will not even go in detail about the corruption, to get nearly anything done there, you need to pay the right persons off.

Baltics, Poland have significantly higher life-standards than Russia or post-soviet countries who are under the influence of Russia. These are lower than in central or northern europe, but much higher than in the countries descibed before.

Looking solely on the unemployment rates does not tell much about prosperous the country is. Most of the countries have not yet been able to fully recover from the 08 collapse, which led to the bad situation in southern Europe (Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal ).

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posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 08:32 PM
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I was not personally surprised to see some Pro Euporean Union supporters and defenders or more rather whats left of the EU club gang.



other ex-soviet countries have significantly higher life standards. GDP per capita is higher, salaries are higher, corruption is lower etc etc. People live far better, being able to afford more, live in more beautiful cities. I am personally from Estonia.


People live far better, being able to afford more, live in more beautiful cities.




Nice listed fantasy i dare you say this in front of those whom are already living in the EU as well in beautiful cities to, not to mention the facts that the Unemployment rate of Estonia has being increasing.

As for your claim that people are being able to afford more Oh yes your right they are being able to afford more as long as they are born into the wealthy class. The regular folks whom cant afford more then the elitist well thats another story.


As for your other ]People live far better? yup nothing like seeing prostitution expend further more people being homeless..



other ex-soviet countries have significantly higher life standards.

Nice lie no doubt you would say anything in order to defend the failing Euporean Union.




Baltics, Poland have significantly higher life-standards than Russia or post-soviet countries who are under the influence of Russia. These are lower than in central or northern europe, but much higher than in the countries descibed before.


With this reply its clear i cant take you seriously enough.

Most of the countries have not yet been able to fully recover from the 08 collapse

Here's a reality check for you Pro Euporean Union Water boy, these same countries wont recove because thats not on the agenda of the same Union your strongly defending.


Oh since your from Estonia its not surprising that your going to even defend the EU's austerity polices to. Just so you know the majority of people in the EU want to get out of the EU.

The only reason the EU wants Estonia and other ex soviet states its because there closer to Russia.
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posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Has Russia invaded Kiev yet? or is that FOX,CNN, Your Obama being telling you that Russia Invaded. Your getting old with your claims that Invaded Ukraine.

Its clear you didn't read the article.

in a civil war but being invaded by a neighboring country are reporting that their lives are worse off? No way! This is very surprising!

The Ukrainians are reporting that their lives are worse off because your beloved Ukrainian president has put through austerity measures in Ukraine. This is why they are reporting they are worse then they were with Yanukovych.


No doubt you would have preferred seeing NATO forces and a NATO base in Crimea claiming that they are there for peace and stability.

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posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 11:35 PM
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The people are only pawns, you shouldn't listen to them. You need to listen to the heads of the new Ukraine government, they have the real figures, the ones we are allowed to believe. Things will improve in the future for the government top officials, what happens to the common people is of no concern.

Maybe I shouldn't put it that way, it is obviously a joke. Right?



posted on Dec, 26 2014 @ 07:22 AM
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originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
a reply to: noeltrotsky
1.High unmploment rate and unmploment increasing for the youth.
2. Funny and how comical your trying to be by suggesting that these same ex-Soviet countries are now prosperous while you forge to mention that these same EU ex-soviet states have fully being introduced to the austerity measures.

The unemployment rate doesn't measure prosperity, GDP per capita does. Of course you already know this, but let me put some numbers to these countries.

Slovakia $17,706
Czech $18,871
Estonia $18,852
Lithuania $15,649
Latvia $15,187
Russia $14,591

Belarus $7,577
en.wikipedia.org...

Notice where Russia is on the list, BTW, and going down now.



posted on Dec, 26 2014 @ 09:51 AM
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Who needs jobs...

French Unemployed Hits Record High, Hollande Demands EU Budget "Must Be Adapted"

Source

When you got hookers for prosperity...

Spanish Government Goes Digging For GDP, Asks Brothels: "How Many Services Do Your Hookers Provide?"



First Italy, then Britain, and now Spain has decided that the key to reducing its debt-to-GDP ratio is not fiscal responsibility, growth, inflation, or restructuring but simply changing the denominator to better reflect reality - in other words, as El Pais reports, Spain is putting an official number on its sex trade and therefore juicing GDP. Prostitution, which is in legal limbo in Spain, is expected, according to revised figures released by the INE on Thursday Spanish GDP increases by between 2.7% and 4.5% after illegal activities such as prostitution, drug trafficking and smuggling are included. The Spanish government is undertaking a sexual services survey to better understand the industry...


Source



posted on Dec, 26 2014 @ 10:10 AM
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A friend of mind lives in Britain but often going to Kiev as from there. Reckons it's gone terrible since the coup took place, lots of people lost their jobs, price of food gone through the roof, heating/oil doubled, no real faith in government. Says the real people in Kiev didn't want the revolution, just the radicals, sponsored by foreign forces. Tells me that many of powers there now are mafia in government



posted on Dec, 26 2014 @ 12:54 PM
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originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter

The Pro EU idiots in Lithuania must be loving the ever increasing jobless rate as they do in Italy.

Except that it's not increasing in Lithuania. goo.gl...
edit on 1212pm2014-12-26T12:55:38-06:00America/Chicagov by gmacev because: (no reason given)



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