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Police shoot black teen at Missouri gas station

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posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: 3u40r15m
Idk. If a police shoots my friend for no reason. That police is going to be no longer.....but who knows what the case is here. I just don't see how over 20 can surround 10 cops and not do anything...



please check the evidence....there WAS a reason. His "friend" made threatening movements at and toward the police officer. That was a deadly decision on his part. I sure hope you would not associate with people that lack that type of common sense.




posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 11:43 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

Hmmmm. That seems to be the excuse every time.



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 12:05 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Not saying some don't, but I have never in my career witnessed any officer carrying a "burner" gun.

Many carry backup guns but they must record the make, model, and serial number with the department. You also have to qualify with it.

From the surface this incident appears very cut and dry to me.



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 01:04 AM
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originally posted by: 3u40r15m
a reply to: Krakatoa

Hmmmm. That seems to be the excuse every time.

Perhaps its the truth that hurts you the most? Smart folks don;t get themselves into these situations....so they don't "get dead" as easily.



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 03:35 AM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

Lucky for you you have the opportunity to think that way....doesn't mean you're right though....far from it



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 06:36 AM
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originally posted by: TorqueyThePig
a reply to: Shamrock6

Not saying some don't, but I have never in my career witnessed any officer carrying a "burner" gun.

Many carry backup guns but they must record the make, model, and serial number with the department. You also have to qualify with it.

From the surface this incident appears very cut and dry to me.


Plus, if a cop was going to take the risk of carrying a 'burner' gun, it would be tend to be a small framed gun that is easily concealed.... since it does break the rules. A dropper would NOT be the larger pistol that we see in the photo.



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 11:12 AM
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originally posted by: 3u40r15m
a reply to: Krakatoa

Lucky for you you have the opportunity to think that way....doesn't mean you're right though....far from it


Sorry to break it to you, but "luck" has absolutely nothing to do with my situation. In fact, you don;t even know my situation, now do you. So how can you make a blatant statement like that about me, hmmm?

- You know nothing of me being in a gang in 2nd grade
- You know nothing of me losing friends to gang violence
- You know nothing of the kid killed in the street in front of my house by a local shop owner after a failed robbery attempt


I made a choice, early on, this was NOT how I was going to live (or die). I decided, I changed things, I did it.... Excuses are just that, excuses. And they come from all walks of life.


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posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 12:11 PM
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If these fine folks in the Mo area believe they can attack or intimidate police with deadly force they are not very intelligent. Most reasonable people are not going support that idea. Some cops may be corrupt but breaking laws and attacking them isn't going to be a solution. Becoming a criminal only wins the hearts of other thugs.

I believe some police issues are out of hand and illegal but violence or the threat against them has a very small chance of solving these issues. Too many will side with the police. The protesters might want to reevaluate their approach.

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posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 12:57 PM
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The biggest clue here that it was justified and not like the other shooting near there is that we do not have 15 witnesses stating that he was on his knees with hands up. Instead we have a bunch of nwo supporters on the scene blindly ignoring reality claiming an officer should not protect us. The only claims being made about no gun are mainly on the internets. We have to listen to the masses.



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 01:14 PM
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originally posted by: deadeyedick
The biggest clue here that it was justified and not like the other shooting near there is that we do not have 15 witnesses stating that he was on his knees with hands up. Instead we have a bunch of nwo supporters on the scene blindly ignoring reality claiming an officer should not protect us. The only claims being made about no gun are mainly on the internets. We have to listen to the masses.
you didn't for the ferguson one either. the transcripts show something like 5 said he was and 15 or so that said he wasn't. and some of the 5 were clear liars. (said shot in the back when he wasn't and so forth; one of those was the fellow strong arm robber as well)
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posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 01:25 PM
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In the second video "angle 2" you see the way he swaggers over to the couple pushing the pram ?

Was he going to jack them?..We'll never know now. Fate played a hand in the game.

What I find interesting is that these kids rob and steal at gun point because they're "poor" and need the money..Yet they found the money to buy a handgun on the street ?



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: stormbringer1701
Well it only takes one voice to tell the truth. That case was clearly hijacked by tptb. Other than comparing statments too a video a gj should not dismiss multiple witnesses. That mistake cost millions of dollars and a few lives. I am glad here we can see how the reactions of the witnessed varied from those in the other case. These here are just claiming harsh treatment and the cop should have been fired on before he shot and we can all understand why that is bs. Big difference in the witnesses to the two crimes and just point to why that other case should be in court and this one should not even get a thought of court.



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 01:42 PM
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originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: stormbringer1701
Well it only takes one voice to tell the truth. That case was clearly hijacked by tptb. Other than comparing statments too a video a gj should not dismiss multiple witnesses. That mistake cost millions of dollars and a few lives. I am glad here we can see how the reactions of the witnessed varied from those in the other case. These here are just claiming harsh treatment and the cop should have been fired on before he shot and we can all understand why that is bs. Big difference in the witnesses to the two crimes and just point to why that other case should be in court and this one should not even get a thought of court.
thats not how any justice system determines the truth. one guy who was busted on film robbing the store with the decedant says the cop shot him in the back execution style ... well i guess we got to disregard that he has a motive to lie and that the forensic evidence says he's full of crap and the other witnesses pretty much say he's full of crap... so i guess because this one twit said that; we rule the cop guilty and march him out and burn him at the stake.

that type of justice you want... it sucks big green donkey shorts.
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posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: stormbringer1701

Your view of that case is skewed from the truth. I do not want to take away from this thread more but there are plenty of threads here with evidence that shows otherwise. I have one in my threads list if you wish to find truth.



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: 3u40r15m
a reply to: Krakatoa

Lucky for you you have the opportunity to think that way....doesn't mean you're right though....far from it


Meh. If you don't think "your friend" pointing a gun at a cop is reason enough for that cop to react with lethal force, I'm not sure what would qualify in your book for a lethal force reaction.



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

cops still provoke violence



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: andy1972

Guns are easy enough to get for free



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Of course it's justified. If that is the case...which I doubt
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posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: Dark Ghost

I don't see any gun and think he was more concerned with putting his hand in his pocket to dump some weed to the ground before the cops got hold of him.

Trust nothing from the police and that includes any guns they find because they are planting them to cover up the murders if you ask me and eye witnesses to the executions are then told that they were mistaken



posted on Dec, 25 2014 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: doompornjunkie
a reply to: Shamrock6



A citizen has the right to resist an unlawful arrest, up to and including taking an officer's life. Key term: unlawful arrest.


lol that is the most ridiculous and skewed thing I have heard all week! Totally false as you stated it. One can only use force if the officer is BEATING them, not to resist arrest. It is up to the courts to decide whether it was lawful or not...




you are wrong,



Your Right of Defense Against Unlawful Arrest
“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”
“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.
Your Right of Defense Against Unlawful Arrest


there are many articles about that. check for yourself.
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ETA: a more recent article written by a former cop.



To the modern, enlightened man these legal opinions would seem to be taken straight out of the pages of the Anarchists Cookbook. Some readers may be shocked to see them for the first time and consider that the old courts were sanctioning lawful murder of policemen. Do You Have the Right to Resist an Unlawful Arrest?



also in case you didn't know the member you replied to say that is a cop, if any would know that a citizen can resist would be them.


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