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Police shoot black teen at Missouri gas station

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posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: xDeadcowx

Not much here for sure.


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posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: DrJunk

A citizen has the right to resist an unlawful arrest, up to and including taking an officer's life. Key term: unlawful arrest.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: UnTrust




Its clearly a gun or something shaped exactly like a gun that he outstretched his arm and pointed at the police officer. This guy had a death wish.


Presumptive, subjective, here-say, out of order, over ruled, in any actual court of law, thats what you're argument would bring from the defense bench.



Like Ferguson and New York this will also never go to court…



its a "done deal" from the gate. Like you have pointed out everyone would just prefer this "goes away".



My defense is to get it to court for everyone to see, that is all.



Last post here, everyone, save your digits.


imo you are way off here.
Putting this in the same group as the brown case only discredits the truth of the brown case and allows others to dismiss true crime.
I hope that officer stays safe and has a merry christmas.
No decent cop wants to shoot someone and i hope he has a merry christmas.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: deadeyedick


No decent cop wants to shoot someone…

I agree.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:18 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6



A citizen has the right to resist an unlawful arrest, up to and including taking an officer's life. Key term: unlawful arrest.


lol that is the most ridiculous and skewed thing I have heard all week! Totally false as you stated it. One can only use force if the officer is BEATING them, not to resist arrest. It is up to the courts to decide whether it was lawful or not...



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edit on 24-12-2014 by intrepid because: Insult removed.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:18 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Double post.
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posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: xDeadcowx

Angle 3


ETA: What is listed on youtube as "Angle 3" is not a new angle. It is the same camera as Angle one, but starts after the officer fired shots and has Antonio Martin cropped out. You can tell the video was cropped by comparing the timestamp on the Angle 1 video to the angle 3 video.

Yes I see that, The officer also loses his gun after falling, or maybe it was a stick, or his false teeth..hard to tell innit?



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: smurfy

Judging by the light coming out of the dropped object, i would assume its his flashlight. That is about the only clear thing in any of the three videos.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: xDeadcowx
a reply to: smurfy

Judging by the light coming out of the dropped object, i would assume its his flashlight. That is about the only clear thing in any of the three videos.

That is what I was getting at, so not his stick then, not gleamy enough. gleaming white False Teeth..possible yup, plausible even. Torch the best of all, because we know he had one.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 07:02 PM
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a reply to: smurfy

I have no idea what you are talking about. If you have a point to make just come out and say it. I do not have the time or the patience to play games with you.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 09:42 PM
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Don't know if anyone has posted this yet here (being lazy I stopped reading at page 6) but viewing each video angle at full screen, I took some key screenshots which are indicators he had a shiny object on him before the police arrived. He took it out of his pocket, holding it in his right hand in this shot here (after he and the other guy seemed to "stalk" the two folks with the baby carriage).

Photo 1


Then, after the police arrived, and confronted them, and some words were exchanged, it is here he is standing near the front of the police cruiser, raising his hand in a typical firing stance.

Photo 2


So, if you review the videos, around these two video snapshots, you will see there was some attempt to point something shiny (in his right hand) at the officer, immediately prior to him being shot and killed. Then, apply Occam's Razor, you might conclude it was a weapon of some sort, resulting in the officer discharging his service weapon to address an immediate threat.


edit on 12/24/2014 by Krakatoa because: Fixed spelling and other fat-finger errors



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 10:18 PM
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originally posted by: doompornjunkie
a reply to: Ceeker63

Haven't you watched the youtube vids lately? Black America (as heff put it) thinks they are now invincible and above the law. They just got done trashing a city with little repercussions. It's the group/gang mentality in that area.. I bet that stoopid SOB that pulled the gun on the cop actually thought the cop wouldn't have the balls to shoot him as to not start another riot.

As for this incident I can't say if the shooting was justified or not..but what f.. are you talking about invincible and above the law?? ordinary black males are getting jacked-up by LOE for no other reasons than walking while Black,driving while black,shopping while black standing while black,and non of this started yesterday this is decade after decades in the making before gangsta rap or hoodies,it was happening when black males were appropriately attired and deferential to white people, like moving off the side walk at the approach of on coming white folks,even a pretend cop can kill a black teen and walk while folks like you cheer..you know what I am off this thread before I say something really fking nasty.
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posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 10:19 PM
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the crime here isn't the officer's. its that this kid (He was 18 years old, BTW) and hundreds of thousands of others just like him grew up with no or deficient parenting, discipline, mentoring, education, combined with cultural pressure to be a slug and thus a danger to everyone around him and a detriment to society and the human race and as often happens it ended badly. the people who helped formed his life choices and personality are responsible. He is too. ultimately it is the individual who is responsible. but there sure is a lot of people offering to open the toll road to hell for people like him. there are a lot of people "helpfully" pushing them along.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 10:19 PM
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Meh. Never mind

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posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 10:37 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: DrJunk

A citizen has the right to resist an unlawful arrest, up to and including taking an officer's life. Key term: unlawful arrest.


Honestly, after the story my 20 yr old daughter told me today about her (and her friends) recent run in with a local yokel and a state boy, I really don't know what to believe anymore when it comes to the police in this country.

MY GOODNESS if they had recorded what happened it would have probably gone viral. Once I get all the info from her down, I will post a thread about it.

More and more of these cops seem to forget, or just dgaf that we, The People, DO HAVE rights...and this seems to be getting worse, everywhere, everyday.

As far as this latest police shooting, Idk what to think...Another "911" call about a "theft" and another dead guy in MO. Seems to me this is another attempt to get people riled up again since they finally started to settle down in Ferguson, which is what, TWO miles from this latest shooting? Crazy...



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 10:48 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa
Don't know if anyone has posted this yet here (being lazy I stopped reading at page 6) but viewing each video angle at full screen, I took some key screenshots which are indicators he had a shiny object on him before the police arrived. He took it out of his pocket, holding it in his right hand in this shot here (after he and the other guy seemed to "stalk" the two folks with the baby carriage).

Photo 1


Then, after the police arrived, and confronted them, and some words were exchanged, it is here he is standing near the front of the police cruiser, raising his hand in a typical firing stance.

Photo 2


So, if you review the videos, around these two video snapshots, you will see there was some attempt to point something shiny (in his right hand) at the officer, immediately prior to him being shot and killed. Then, apply Occam's Razor, you might conclude it was a weapon of some sort, resulting in the officer discharging his service weapon to address an immediate threat.


According to the pic that was posted earlier in this thread the gun was black and not shiny. Why doesn't the police just release the video from the cop car? The kid was standing right in front of it and the camera should have a clear pic of the gun. That is the video I want to see not some grainy video that shows nothing.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 10:56 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

According to the pic that was posted earlier in this thread the gun was black and not shiny. Why doesn't the police just release the video from the cop car? The kid was standing right in front of it and the camera should have a clear pic of the gun. That is the video I want to see not some grainy video that shows nothing.


Well, that may be so, but, even black metal can "shine" if the light reflects off it correctly. It might be the light reflecting off of the thing in his hand too...that is a possibility. I agree, these vids are too grainy for any real analysis, whereas the dash cam (if there is one installed in that cruiser) should have a better (ie closer) view of the situation. But the vids here still do show him raising his arm(s) in a threatening manner as shown in the screen cap. Also, if you review the 2nd angle video and cycle through it repeatedly for the moments immediately prior to the shooting, you will see him raise his hand(s) up in front of him as if to point something at the officer. What that something is, has yet to be positively identified, although the gun recovered at the scene does have a high probability of being that thing.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: buster2010

The dashboard cam was not on, and the officer's body camera was turned off and in his patrol car. Apparently the dashboard cameras only turn on if the lights are flashing.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 11:29 PM
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I took some frames from the closer angle camera and made an animated gif that repeats the motions by the suspect immediately prior to the shooting. Clearly, he takes something "shiny" from his right pocket in his right hand and raises (what looks to me like both arms) up into a firing position, an then he walks toward the officer.

So, we have captured on unbiased video the following things occurring:

  1. Taking something from his right pocket
  2. With it in his right hand, he raises his hand in a threatening motion in the direction of the police officer
  3. Begins to approach the officer, with his outstretched hand pointing toward him
  4. The officer takes a step (or more, not seen in the footage) back and reacts to him
  5. At that point the officer draws and discharges his weapon


So, the suspect made threatening moves toward the officer. That is not a smart thing to do in any occasion, let alone in this place at this time in history. Looks to me like this MAN made a very deadly decision on HIS OWN. And, he paid the ultimate price for that decision.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 11:29 PM
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Idk. If a police shoots my friend for no reason. That police is going to be no longer.....but who knows what the case is here. I just don't see how over 20 can surround 10 cops and not do anything...




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