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MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way

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posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: corvuscorrax

Incorrect. Some exes suck. Bitch away but don't expect not to be challenged when you decide to paint all others as if they were your ex.




posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 02:34 PM
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originally posted by: corvuscorrax
We however live in a society where women tend to value men for what they can give them in goods and cash. Men tend to just want a decent looking broad who will go down on him and not talk so much.



See, there you go -- generalizing women, saying they only value men for what they can give them in goods and cash. There are a lot of married people out there, and there are a lot of married people who don't have a lot of goods and cash. That means there are a lot of women out there who are with their men, despite not having a lot of goods and cash. There are also a lot of women who are out there in the working world making as much money as they can to help support the family - right along with their men.

I know men who marry women for their looks, then when the women have children and start to put on weight, or lose some elasticity in their nether regions, the men look elsewhere. Should I generalize and say that we live in a society where men tend to do this to their women? DON'T generalize.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

This is my point... it sucks that you got hurt so badly (most of us have) but why on Earth would you ever let one person determine the choices you make for the rest of your life? Say you do find that one woman and it's an amazing relationship, she's everything you ever wanted a few years go by and she wants to get married, she's traditional, has always dreamed about a big wedding etc... why would you punish her for your ex being a sorry excuse for a human being?



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

Correct.
I have two ex wives. One is great. The other one sucks!



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 02:35 PM
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huffington post article

As more women start making more than their husbands, this will become more common.

breakdown of custody stats

This is kind of important. Let's see what a breakdown of the stats actually says.


In 51 percent of custody cases, both parents agreed -- on their own -- that mom become the custodial parent.
In 29 percent of custody cases, the decision was made without any third party involvement.


So, that's 80 percent of cases that are made with essentially the fathers agreeing without any real fuss, any force from the court, and any real fight. I wonder why.

Could it be because the issue is more complicated than women are faithless monsters that are unable to love?

Could it maybe be because some men just genuinely are bad guys that don't care about their kids, or they're lazy, or they're just too messed up to be able to handle it and know it so they walk away?

Is it possible that life is more complicated than screaming about discrimination until you're blue in the face...kind of like how a lot of you seem to be accusing feminists of?



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

Yep, I've had my heart broken in the past, yet I ended up marrying a wonderful guy. That's because I got back up and opened my heart to another.

Men may be strong physically, but they seem to be very weak emotionally. Ooops, did I just generalize?



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

You know its hard to say because this:

Say you do find that one woman and it's an amazing relationship, she's everything you ever wanted a few years go by and she wants to get married, she's traditional, has always dreamed about a big wedding etc...

Is exactly how it went down the first time. How can I know for sure it would not happen again? Like I said it has nothing to do with my ex, per se, but rather my own learned fear of being so ultimately crushed.

I honestly can't say what would really happen if I meet someone new and it does eventually lead to a proposal of marriage my views may change. I can't say for sure but from where I stand now, the prospect is terrifying.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Ditto and physically abused in addition. No way in hell was I going to let that scumbag have power over the rest of my life. Now I have an amazing man in my life, every heartbreak and bruise was just part of my journey to him.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

I'm not sure if you are generalizing or not but I will admit that I am very emotional. Whether that is a weakness or not is still up for debate, I suppose.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

You can't know, you can only choose to be strong and take the risk anyway knowing that you will survive if you were wrong.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

True words. Thank you.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Ancient Champion



Bitter? lol



I'm not the one throwing a tantrum and taking my ball home.


Really?? Maybe you reread your last post again.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: ghostrager

You see, friend, that the orb of lies that has been pulled over us is too loose. It lets certain people out and able to pick at that barrier that no one else can see. Ask any person that has been trapped in an avalanche. You want to be the person on top of the snow rather than within it. What you are also seeing is the pretty mouse syndrome.

A researcher of sorts, by the name of John B. Calhoun, discovered something very shocking.
When you have too much of the population filling too many social roles in a confined space with no ability to expand and find new territory, the males will simply not give a #. With so many potential mates but yet no real way to defend territory or go to another area, the mice decided, # it, I'm staying home and eating, sleeping, and grooming myself. Let someone else do the work basically.

That is what is happening with us. You see men being ashamed of being men. You have more and more cultural trends suggesting a feminisation of our youth, with clothing and music and the like. Being a man, that is to be frowned upon. To be like a woman, that is to be praised and congratulated on. No, I don't have concrete evidence, nor will there ever be any concrete evidence of this in effect. It is simply impossible to be measured and broken down into facts. It is observations really.

Me, I was a little punk. I would get fiercely upset at people for making fun of my glasses or how much bigger I was and I would react very sharply. But one thing I always noticed during my entire school career, was that punishment was not the same, even for same offenses.
They put us in an auditorium one day and gave us this big presentation on sexual harassment. They asked us at the end if we had any questions. I stood up and quite loudly asked, "What happens if a girl touches me in a way I don't like? I didn't see anything covering that. Shouldn't they also get suspended?" The teachers all start spluttering. The guys started laughing, and the girls started yelling. Straight to the main office I went, frog marched by my assistant principal. And to this day, I never received an answer to that question. The idea of a girl doing something to a guy that he didn't like was mind boggling to them.

It sucks being sexually harassed, whether you're male or female. And it does happen, more often than it should for either sex. But men, they don't report for shame of being insulted and having their sexuality called into question. Men don't report it because they know women will say hypocritical things and have a double standard about the whole affair.

We need to stop trying to have females be equal with males and start having humans be equal with other humans.

I'm not equal to other people as they are not equal to me.
I know how to tie 46 different kinds of knots. I know how to field strip and dissemble an AR-15 with a blindfold on.
My neighbor down the street doesn't know how to do that.
They never did any extra-curricular activities, they never became boy scouts. But I'm sure they know how to drive a bus better than me. I'm sure that they probably know how to split wood better. It is these inequalities that make us equal with each other. It is the human condition. If I need a log split, I go to my neighbor. If they need two pieces of string tied very securely, they come to me.

Racism, ableism, classism, feminism, they're all made up by people with more time and money on their hands than other people. What better way to defeat your enemy than by making them unaware that you were even fighting?

There is a war out there, being fought behind the scenes. It spills out into our world a little more very day. Jets, going missing in one of the most monitored areas in the world, filled with some very important people and a lot of military personnel, subways being evacuated or losing power in odd circumstances and many more instances. This sexodus is but one casualty of that war.
If we don't step our game up, the world will turn into Mr Orwell's fun times faster than you can blink.
Less feminism, more humanism

edit on 24-12-2014 by thisguy27 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 03:14 PM
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a reply to: AnIntellectualRedneck

Did Huff review every last case in the US? I'm thinking they didn't. The only way a father becomes the custodial parent is if the mom is on drugs or abuses the kids. I get tired of people coming into threads with "51% this and 49% that" like it really makes a difference.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 03:19 PM
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I can fall in love id say once a week, ive never cheated on any of my exes,and now im single again. No biggy, not all women or men are the same, too bad all we see is the angry ones.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 03:23 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

You can't know, you can only choose to be strong and take the risk anyway knowing that you will survive if you were wrong.

And another thing. If i hear three drunk wimminz out of tune cat wallering to "I will survive" at the Karaoke i swear i'll squeem and squeem and squeem.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: Ancient Champion

Really.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: ghostrager

I am among those in this supposed 'sexodus'. I just don't care about this oversexed culture. I don't want any part of it, and don't like any sexual ideas forced upon me. I don't really relate to any men or women who find hetero or LGTBQ values in their entertainment. i don't want to hook up, don't want to see boobies unless I'm watching something pornographic (and then there is all this real guilt about exploitation of the sexually obsessed), and I don't understand people who do.

I don't use Tinder, or POF, or any of this madness, don't get it, don't want it. I've totally checked out and removed myself from exposure to it. i don't know why people seek validation in public for their gender or sexual choices, don't know why people seek that kind of attention. I'm alienated.

I like privacy and equality, and I think anyone and everyone should be able to love whatever way they choose, and seek understanding in themselves and from their local community, rather than televison, advertising, and in pop culture.

I feel assaulted by it all, and I feel like I'm in a minority. i don't date, don't want kids, don't really see any room for romance or love in the way I wa brought up to believe in it. It's incredibly real and lonely. All I seek to do now is maintain my freedom, personal happiness, health, and individuality in the face of an entire culture that just wants pointless empty relationships and lackluster physical interactions.

I'd rather read a book than have sex at this point.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: Herolotus
a reply to: ghostrager


I'd rather read a book than have sex at this point.

Just wait until you meet a girl who does both at the same time...It'll destroy any self esteem you had left.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 06:04 PM
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originally posted by: Expat888

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
Single straight conservative white men are the most oppressed minority in America. Well from reading ATS that's the impression I'm getting. What a whiney, paranoid sorry excuse for men, some are here .Jealous of the fact they haven't been persecuted for their race or sexuality and can't have their own movements or parades. It's pathetic, no wonder women arnt interested in you. Your still craving for your mother to call you her "special little soldier" and tell you what a tough little guy you are.


Have ex-wives in u.s .. europe.. and asia .. two are diagnosed sociopaths .. six cheated .. three died .. last two mistook me for a walking a.t.m ..
Dont need the lies.. deciet and bull# from women and refuse to put up with it. And no Im not a white male am japanese . So take your politically correct feminist inspired drivel and shove it .. women are far from being the damn saints that you lot try to make them out to be ...


Um, no offense dude, but if you have been married more than 6 times, the problem ain't women. It's you. You either never took marriage that seriously, don't take women seriously, have married for reasons other than love, or have a fondness for shallow relationships. Whatever the case may be, if you couldn't figure out by the end of marriage 2 that perhaps you should rethink marriage all together, then you really have no grounds to complain. Marriage, whatever one's views on it, is one of the most significant legal contracts one can enter in any country. A legal contract that has more impact on every aspect of your life than any other, save military service.

I was married once, and that was one time too many for me. I learn from my mistakes. You continued to make them.



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