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originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
Its a duh.
Oh I do not think I am confusing anything. You just keep changing the topic to different things. Now the topic is class. And your the one talking to me, bestride all my efforts to make you not talk to me...
Success...Intent...Goal..Those are all for the most part personal concepts.
No offense but I dont want to argue in circles
The circling was YOUR CHOICE of behavior, and you were quite proud of it before. Don't blame me for you choosing to do something, then changing your mind.
Ah you see there I to can turn things around...Round and round we go.
I asked you over and over, what is it you want or trying to say? I mean I already told you...You are you...And I am me...And like everybody else who are individuals and singularities.
In a debate, we both are forced to analyze our perceptions, thoughts and ideas; to know more clearly what they are, why they are, and how they influence our choices and acts. I don 't need you to agree with me for that, nor do you need me to agree with you for that.
You have repeatedly tried to find out what I think of you, how I judge you..so I will reflect on that and offer my perception. It is only that, and I am quite aware that I may be way off.
It seems to me that you oppose ideas simply out of a desire to oppose and challenge- not because you really have any clear opposing view.
Thus, you change position according to whatever view you perceive as the "stronger" one, hoping to "win", and assuming I am doing this for the same reason and that I will also jump to oppose you no matter what... even turning against my own original opinion, just to remain adversary.
The source of your mistake is in the assumption of my intent. Though all women and all men are not alike, this does seem to be a difference that is very common between the majority of men and women, and a great source of misunderstanding.
Where you see a competition, and the need for a winner and a loser, I see an exchange, in which each benefits and grows. It is not because a woman refuses to bend down and submit, hierarchy-style, that she expects the man to! We can both stand tall and face each other as individuals with our own personal sovereignty intact.
originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
a reply to: Bluesma
Reading about some of the things you have to say about Latin cultures I think we could learn a lot from each other, not bottling things up for example, that sounds very reasonable to me and has always been a personal policy in my own life.
I've never been to France myself but I imagine that I'd probably like it as perhaps somewhat of a compromise between the fiery Latin cultures and the Germanic ones. Though, to be honest I'd probably feel quite alienated being from such a reserved and aloof culture myself and being largely introverted to boot.
What "matters" is different for everyone. It matters to me, to know myself and what is influencing my choices and acts, because my choices and acts influence my experience on this earth. I have a measure of power and responsibility for everything that happens in my life.
Without that focus and conscious programming, I would just end up blaming others for my situations and experiences, which does not change those situations, they only result in a lot of grumbling and complaining that leads no where.
Like men bitching about women and women bitching about men, that seems a waste of time and energy to me. But whatever. Sometimes that is easier to do than self analysis and working on self mastery.
I can assure you that nothing you have said has upset me, and I am sorry if anything I said upset you. I tried very hard to be respectful and not have that effect on you. I have definately "won" here, but that says nothing at all about you. I have won some more insight into myself and some power over my future. Because I value that, I will naturally hope you did too... but if it is not what you wanted to get out of it, then I hope you got whatever you were looking for.
originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
Now your done doing whatever you were on about bothering me and such. Cool stuff Bluesma...Se around this site...Hopefully though, not any time soon.
originally posted by: Expat888
originally posted by: woodwardjnr
Single straight conservative white men are the most oppressed minority in America. Well from reading ATS that's the impression I'm getting. What a whiney, paranoid sorry excuse for men, some are here .Jealous of the fact they haven't been persecuted for their race or sexuality and can't have their own movements or parades. It's pathetic, no wonder women arnt interested in you. Your still craving for your mother to call you her "special little soldier" and tell you what a tough little guy you are.
Have ex-wives in u.s .. europe.. and asia .. two are diagnosed sociopaths .. six cheated .. three died .. last two mistook me for a walking a.t.m ..
Dont need the lies.. deciet and bull# from women and refuse to put up with it. And no Im not a white male am japanese . So take your politically correct feminist inspired drivel and shove it .. women are far from being the damn saints that you lot try to make them out to be ...
Be true to yourself, remember this moment and next time you see me active in a thread, just pretend I am not there and do not post to me. Have a better day that way! Ciao!