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MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way

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posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 04:23 AM
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Single straight conservative white men are the most oppressed minority in America. Well from reading ATS that's the impression I'm getting. What a whiney, paranoid sorry excuse for men, some are here .Jealous of the fact they haven't been persecuted for their race or sexuality and can't have their own movements or parades. It's pathetic, no wonder women arnt interested in you. Your still craving for your mother to call you her "special little soldier" and tell you what a tough little guy you are.



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posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 04:28 AM
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originally posted by: woodwardjnr
Single straight conservative white men are the most oppressed minority in America. Well from reading ATS that's the impression I'm getting. What a whiney, paranoid sorry excuse for men, some are here .Jealous of the fact they haven't been persecuted for their race or sexuality and can't have their own movements or parades. It's pathetic, no wonder women arnt interested in you. Your still craving for your mother to call you her "special little soldier" and tell you what a tough little guy you are.



Feminism has poisoned academia and is generating unfounded hatred against the individual male, by slandering men as a group. Just as the post above is doing.

The modern revisionism that created the battle of the sexes,
is not science. It's not even poor science. It is destructive
to science.






She opens by saying, in the first minute that it started because a woman online came into a "male safe space" for abused husbands and men, and started of by openly trolling the guys saying that men were wrong that they were just a bunch of whiners and complaining over nothing.

These individual battered men are not
oppressing anyone, leering at anyone,
or ridiculing anyone for being a few
pounds over. But apparently they
cannot have their own safe space
to heal their wounds either.

The delusion in the post above
mine is so strong it is palpable.

Feminism has become a religion
of fanaticism, and it is flying
towards sparagmos mountain.


Mike Grouchy



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posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:06 AM
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In my opinion there is a huge male bashing psy-op that has been seeded into the subconscious over the past forty years. We are just beginning to see open and naked displays of it, but this is nothing compared to what is coming. In the propagandists attempts to meddle with western society, weather for political or commercial reasons, it has been meddling with forces they do not really understand.




When there is only one man "worth having" women will trample each other to get him. Look at some of the airport footage of the Beatles during the height of their popularity. If the man isn't guarded, the women may very well tear his clothes off. It is not unknown for a group of hysterical women to tear a man apart with their bear hands.

We have records of this from the dawn of Patriarchy, which put an end to it, in the writings and art of the Greeks.

Sparagmos:
    noun
    1. the tearing to pieces of a live victim, as a bull or a calf, by a band of bacchantes in a Dionysian orgy.







My analysis indicates a world wide media driven catastrophe in our futures. The world wide sparagmos of men by 10% of the female population. Overnight, in one brief flair up of hysteria and irrationality. Spreading contagious waves of angry rioting and looting women. Tearing any man found apart with their bare hands. Where in the morning all that can be said is "oops," and it will be found that nobody is left alive.

Men are isolated and alone. It is the women who are gathering in larger and larger groups. Women who are turning out for concerts and movies. Women who have "a way" now. Not men.



90% of the women will be innocent, but at that point . . . so-what.


Mike Grouchy
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posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:09 AM
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a reply to: woodwardjnr

Ha ha ha . But men can still lift heavy things .



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:13 AM
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originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: woodwardjnr

Ha ha ha . But men can still lift heavy things .



So can women.









posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:15 AM
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originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: woodwardjnr

Ha ha ha . But men can still lift heavy things .


I get my mom to do the heavy lifting


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posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:20 AM
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originally posted by: woodwardjnr
Single straight conservative white men are the most oppressed minority in America. Well from reading ATS that's the impression I'm getting. What a whiney, paranoid sorry excuse for men, some are here .Jealous of the fact they haven't been persecuted for their race or sexuality and can't have their own movements or parades. It's pathetic, no wonder women arnt interested in you. Your still craving for your mother to call you her "special little soldier" and tell you what a tough little guy you are.


Have ex-wives in u.s .. europe.. and asia .. two are diagnosed sociopaths .. six cheated .. three died .. last two mistook me for a walking a.t.m ..
Dont need the lies.. deciet and bull# from women and refuse to put up with it. And no Im not a white male am japanese . So take your politically correct feminist inspired drivel and shove it .. women are far from being the damn saints that you lot try to make them out to be ...



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:20 AM
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Feminism has become a religion
a reply to: mikegrouchy
And yet most religions are on the whole very masculine. In Christianity God and Jesus are regarded as males. I won't start with Islam

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posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:23 AM
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originally posted by: mikegrouchy
When there is only one man "worth having" women will trample each other to get him.


Secret from a happily married man who has remained faithful and true for 12 years come February and is in this partnership for the long haul: Men, if you're just looking to pick up a woman, no strings attached, no "relationship" established to speak of all you need to do is wear a wedding ring. This is one of the greatest mysteries I've run into in my young life. Within a matter of 2 days after getting married, I had women hitting on me and flirting with me everywhere I went. I was at a complete loss over this... Obviously I had dating success before meeting my wife, but I was usually the aggressor, initiating the flirting, playing the game, etc. Suddenly I was feeling like some Hollywood A-lister on the red carpet. Over the years I have come to the conclusion that the ring is the secret. In fact I don't wear my wedding ring anymore... I've never exactly been "tempted" to stray, but temptations aren't something I really need to deal with, so I keep my ring on my dresser. The amazing thing about that is, when my wife asked me why I never wore my ring except when we were having a date night, I was 100% open and honest with her and she said it is definitely a "thing" among a lot of younger women. A man wearing that ring indicates security, confidence, and creates a bit of a challenge.

She, on the other hand, wears her ring everywhere because men respond exactly the opposite. At least in the world I live in, you mess with a married woman and you're quite possibly going to end up with a hole between your eyes.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:24 AM
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You do realize that men trust their dogs more than they trust women now.


makes perfect sense.......my dog has never cheated on me or tried to take from me...nothing but unconditional love



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:25 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed yeah but you can't make love to your dog, which is important in a loving relationship



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:27 AM
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a reply to: woodwardjnr


It's pathetic, no wonder women arnt interested in you. Your still craving for your mother to call you her "special little soldier" and tell you what a tough little guy you are.

Women are interested in me but i am married . My mum drives me nuts . Tough little guy , how old are the men you are talking about .


I get my mom to do the heavy lifting

Why are you getting your mum to do the heavy lifting . Are your arms broken .



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:34 AM
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originally posted by: woodwardjnr


Feminism has become a religion
a reply to: mikegrouchy
And yet most religions are on the whole very masculine. In Christianity God and Jesus are regarded as males. I won't start with Islam


Big picture stuff.
I like talking about the larger situation.
And I am honored to have you debating my statements woodwardjnr, just as I have enjoyed reading your posts over the years. Out of respect for you I will lay the largest cards I have on the table.

    Thesis: The history of civilization is the history of money.

    Hypothesis: For the entire history of the world Money was about sex (see the Epic of Gilgamesh) until the Jesus incident then money became about food*.

    Corollary: Since 1913 money is being turned back into a medium of sex, not food.

    Conclusions: Sex sells, for now.


And that ... Is where I am coming from.

/salute
Mike Grouchy
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posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:35 AM
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When my ex and myself split up we split everything down the middle...She got the inside of the house and all it's contents i got the outside and all it's contents. Fresh air's better than nothing i suppose



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:38 AM
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If we are honest men have had total control over their wives for years and its only comparatively recent that women have had fair recourse from divorce due to a man's basically bad behaviour.

When I look at my grandfather and father;'s attitude on a number of things, I am surprised my grandmother put up with his nonsense - which it was - although not malicious and my father tried it and slowly mother let him know that things like his dinner, which he loved, would not be done as were she short of money, she would get a job and not be there to cook it.

I admired both these women and if we are honest, men to try it on with their wives, unless married to a 'bunny boiler' but then you can leave or not marry said bunny b.

Today the tables have turned and due to the financial situation we are all in, except for the elite, we are unable to fund a place to live and a home for wife and kids or partner and kids. The courts also don't accept our beating our wives or partners which is quite right in my view - although a few might still challenge that. I know I could be selfish but I have managed to stay happy and content and take is that as she smiles at me and cooks my favourite and the kids call round I have managed the tightrope of marriage, wlthough I have fallen off a couple of times and landed on the proverbial a..e., but she is forgiving and not always perfect (as I remind her periodically). I do think though that the female who deliberately lies to get her male in trouble or is a gold digger needs to be brought into the equation the male finds himself in.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:45 AM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: mikegrouchy
When there is only one man "worth having" women will trample each other to get him.


Secret from a happily married man who has remained faithful and true for 12 years come February and is in this partnership for the long haul: Men, if you're just looking to pick up a woman, no strings attached, no "relationship" established to speak of all you need to do is wear a wedding ring. This is one of the greatest mysteries I've run into in my young life. Within a matter of 2 days after getting married, I had women hitting on me and flirting with me everywhere I went. I was at a complete loss over this... Obviously I had dating success before meeting my wife, but I was usually the aggressor, initiating the flirting, playing the game, etc. Suddenly I was feeling like some Hollywood A-lister on the red carpet. Over the years I have come to the conclusion that the ring is the secret. In fact I don't wear my wedding ring anymore... I've never exactly been "tempted" to stray, but temptations aren't something I really need to deal with, so I keep my ring on my dresser. The amazing thing about that is, when my wife asked me why I never wore my ring except when we were having a date night, I was 100% open and honest with her and she said it is definitely a "thing" among a lot of younger women. A man wearing that ring indicates security, confidence, and creates a bit of a challenge.

She, on the other hand, wears her ring everywhere because men respond exactly the opposite. At least in the world I live in, you mess with a married woman and you're quite possibly going to end up with a hole between your eyes.


I believe the Ring thing works like this.. When a woman sees a man with a wedding band she believes he must be a good catch, so she will go after him to take whatever someone else has that she has missed out on. if he's not wearing a ring he must have something wrong with him. Probably a bed wetter or sexual deviant so she will be less interested...Just so you ladies know..I'm single and available and never wet the bed..


And as far as shooting a Man "between the eyes" because he slept with your wife..I would probably buy him a car and offer to put his kids through college because he just did me a huge favour.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 05:58 AM
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Cheers Mike, good to be debating with you too. If we are going to talk about money, I agree sex sells, but men in general are paid more than women and I would argue the richest people in the world are by and far predominantly men. I imagine it was a guy who came up with the line "sex sells", I've never used a prostitute because deep down I know paid for sex can never be as good as genuine lustful sex with a woman you desire.

sex does sell because a lot of men think with their penis first. At least I know I'm guilty of that. Sex will continue to sell be cause we have a weak spot for sex. Times may change but human instincts probably take a lot longer to evolve



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 06:02 AM
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Male is by far the most common gender for serial killers and rapists.... just sayin'. Men aren't always the poor, innocent saintly victims they claim to be, and neither are women. There are good and bad in both genders, so let's not try to generalize one or the other, shall we?

From a happily married woman for 15 years now (my first and only marriage). Oh and when I married him, I was the one supporting him financially. Now I am a stay-at-home mom, and he supports me financially. And we're both quite happy. So there.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 06:03 AM
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So much misogyny here
The inability to look beyond your own projections and bad experiences. It really isn't helping anyone.



posted on Dec, 24 2014 @ 06:18 AM
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a reply to: ghostrager

I think we need to be real about this. Both men and women have weaknesses and a nasty card to play out against the other gender.

Marriage and partnership come with a heavy price. If we let ourselves love another to the point where we will grieve for them when they are taken away then we have already crossed the line into dangerous territory. The potential for abuse is huge and very obvious.

Gender games! It will make the lives of men, women and children much harder. Even the animals knows that the best way to survive is the nuclear family and the tribe. We are working contrary to what is best for our collective survival.

Animals are clever and know what is best for them. Humans are stupid and greedy and think that they can have their cake and eat it. Nature and life do not work that way.

Ok. Everything has changed. We now have to adjust to that as men and women. We must adapt. No magic wand of making everything alright and how it used to be will be waved. It is useless to blame the authorities for imposing this upon us. I think these changes run deeper than that. The authorities are just adapting to and making the most of this social trend.

Personally I am happy to have women be my equal. I am happy that I no longer have to play the dominant role (I always hated that). I am happy that I don't have to live up to that stereotypical ape of a man role.

I am actually not very popular with women. They don't really go for the gentle, sensitive, creative and alternative kind of guys. So really you traditional blokes are still getting the better deal. If you want to be successful with women your two best attributes are being tall and having a big wallet generally.

Perhaps things have not changed as much as we think. Have you ever entertained the idea that gender definitions have become even more polarised and extreme? This coupled with the inability of men to meet the criteria because of changes in the economy and work prospects.

Just another crazy twist in a crazy world where we are our worst enemies.

I would say to men don't ever pay for sex. It is a weakness we all have and we should fight those who try to use our weakness and needs to make money. We are lucky because there is endless free pornography online when the need arises. I would also say that even with pornography we need to have a morality. The nicest kind for me is watching a woman by herself, no toys, nice and natural and not too dirty. Damn, why are women so beautiful? However, don't expect your beauty to have any kind of spell on me. I'm clued up and have my honour. You'll never be able to pull me along by my you know what.




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