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originally posted by: IndependentAgent
a reply to: AlephBet
90% of your statement were proven to be false days ago!
It is our job to put the pieces together again. It God's job to lead us on that path. We cannot do it alone.
Gospel of Philip
Seek, Find and Adapt.
originally posted by: AlephBet
Consider His problem. God desires the creation of new life like himself for fellowship. Knowing the simple truth, he is face with a Dilemma.The Simple TruthThe highest good and supreme path of goodness is giving. Taking is the will of the thief. For God to offer free will, the possibility of the thief is created by the choice to create. Le't examine the clues in a simple form. I will save you the trouble of verses.Elohim and Ruach Elohim say, "Let US make mankind (ADAM) in OUR image." From these simple words, we have the image of Adam as both male and female. They then rest from their labors, allowing free will and the first choice to then proceed. We are then introduced to Yahweh and the Satan he made to be cunning. In Job, we see Satan as the accuser (Conscience) of man. In the OT, we see Yahweh as the adversary to evil, using Satan as the whispering mouth to his self-righteous ear.We then see the promise of salvation from death emerge with the NT. From the NT, we learn that we are born again in baptism (Flood of Noah) as the process to resurrect into a new person below. From this process, the Lamb (Adam) is refined. Adam's blood was first shed by Yahweh in the Garden to divide the image. This division allowed Yahweh to then deceive Eve (Weaker nature of Adam). The deception was a means to an end. By taking the naked creation of God and dividing it, Yahweh was then able to prompt mankind into a struggle against the temptation he provided.There were three outcomes stated by Satan by his own words. We must assume Yahweh had knowledge of what would happen.1) If you eat the fruit, you become like God. We were already like God, but naked. We had no knowledge of good and evil.2) If you eat, your eyes would be opened. This was true. They now had the perspective of division from God's image.3) If you eat, you will know good and evil. This, again, is true. We now know the difference and can choose.As we are told in the NT, Satan will go to an abyss prepared for him as an enemy of God. The dilemma is clear now. How can God stand justified if he condemns his created enemy? We can easily see Yahweh as different from God by purpose. Yahweh proclaimed himself God, but clearly has the will to take, divide and destroy. This is the description of Satan as the accuser and destroyer. The adversary of man has always been Yahweh and the influence of war and division.Again, the dilemma presents itself on a host of levels. Who prepared Jesus / Joshua in Zachariah 3? That was Yahweh. Who promised to send a savior for HIS people Israel? Yahweh. By his people, we see defiance against Elohim's Rainbow promise to bless all mankind in Genesis 9. We also see a contradiction to Adam hanging on the cross to pay the blood cost.Genesis 9 “Whoever sheds human blood, by humans shall their blood be shed;
for in the image of God has God made mankind.Here is yet another Dilemma. Yahweh shed Adam's blood as the perfect lamb of sacrifice. As we find out with Abraham and Issac, the Son is not the one to be sacrificed. There is a scapegoat. The ram is caught in the thicket.I will propose that Yahweh was the scapegoat and was connected with Azazel of the Book of Enoch. We know that Christ was said to be the one that was (past), is (present) and is to come (future King). We are also told of the one that was (Past), is not (Present) and is to come (future). Yahweh is missing from the New Testament. As we find out in Revelation, Satan is cast from Heaven in the end times. Who is Satan? The Dilemma of God. Mankind was naked when presented with a cunning enemy. We are charged with overcoming the enemy. Jesus said to forgive enemies or we are not forgiven.Ultimately, the dilemma of God is gaining our forgiveness. Why? He allowed for the enemy so that we could be like Him. He had already overcome his own enemy. The pathway of creation is realizing how we can do the same.Apart from forgiving God, we are not ourselves forgiven. 1 Corinthians 1520 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.”[c] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.After the dust settles form the coming wars and fire of the enemies of God, how do we respond today? As continually divided creatures, how can we respond to an enemy we ourselves continue to embrace? God's dilemma becomes ours in a direct reflection, as in a mirror. The Answer1 Corinthians 134 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.Choose Love and then forgive enemies. Pathos removes the accuser and the need for the adversary. Love overcomes. Even the scapegoat could choose love by confessing the sin and turning. It boils down to our own choice of will.Choose to take the name that means giving, or choose to remain the thief on the cross that was left alone. There were two thieves on the cross around Jesus. One repented and the other refused. The only enemy is within us all. God only provided the means to an end.Choice. I now turn to the Bhagavad Gita for the next level of answers. Watch it in upcoming threads. After reading it from beginning to end yesterday, I now have opened eyes to the need for the Biblical adversary. From the pages of the Gita, the Lord in the process is revealed.One last Dilemma. If Christ is a deception, what was he trying to show God by asking for enemies to be forgiven? The same answer God is trying to show us. The twist to the story.
originally posted by: AlephBet
a reply to: NOTurTypical
Is that your judgment? Am I your enemy?
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information which is proof against all argument and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation." ~ Edmond Spenser
Consider His problem. God desires the creation of new life like himself for fellowship. Knowing the simple truth, he is face with a Dilemma.
Mathew 25, verses 40 & 45
"Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me. Whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."