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So...I'm a racist now.

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posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: samerulesapply

To me you are confusing...do you have a shorter...straight to the point version?




posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:36 PM
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An equal opportunity offender!
The best!
J/K..




posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:43 PM
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originally posted by: caladonea
a reply to: samerulesapply

To me you are confusing...do you have a shorter...straight to the point version?


That is the point.
She/he
Black, white, light brown or Asian...

I could see it in the writing..
OP was dancing around the race subject....
It was clearly uncomfortable for the OP..
Yes it could have been said direct in one paragraph..
But it was very clearly uneasy for the OP to come out and just say it.

edit on 22-12-2014 by Bigburgh because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: AnuTyr

Right, isn't that kinda what I've been saying all along?

I don't compare hair or eye colour...no comparisons were being made, I was using someones distinctive features to identify them. Insinuating that I share personality traits with hitler is a bit of a stretch, perhaps I took that the wrong way.

But what you are saying is pretty much what I'm saying...I don't really care what a person looks like and place no value in these physical characteristics.

Which is why I cannot grasp the concept of why people are so touchy about such things - this response being a case in point. If you were in fact insinuating that I have resemblance to hitler then I'll certainly consider and ponder on that, if not then I apologise for misreading your response.

Either way I ain't that bothered, although I may start a rant about it!

I'm just messing, I appreciate your input, some insightful stuff, from all of you.

Much obliged.



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: samerulesapply

I can kind of understand why it might bug some people. Basically, it's like saying that the person's identity can be summed up by a color when it clearly can't. The problem is that I can't relate. When a black guy refers to me as "that white dude at the block party", I'm not offended in the least. Especially if I was one of the only white people there... that just makes sense.

I can also tell you that I've only been glared at by white people when I say it. Never once has a black person been angry at me acknowledging their blackness. It's waaaaay more awkward to ignore it.


ps edit - Next time somebody gets mad at you about it, call them racists for insinuating that being black is something to be ashamed of. That's how I take it, anyway. Pretending "black" is offensive and insulting is racist itself.
edit on 22-12-2014 by Cuervo because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: caladonea

Lol, no I don't, sorry.



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: samerulesapply

As a Scots/Irish half breed myself I've never taken that much offence in the term Scot...
Jock a little bit...
Mick as well...



I have this inclination that Mick was used as a derogatory term because of Irish people losing the Mc from their name...

Hence the saying "take the mick"...



I don't know or have a theory as to how the word Jock originated.



Resident member SoloProtocol may know being a Scotsman.
Hopefully he pops in to enlighten us.




It all depends how and why someone would use the term jock that would determine the offence taken... imo.



You're right though, to rise above it and say "yeah so what I'm proud of it" is probably the best option.



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: spirit_horse

What does african american even mean? If i were an Egyptian. I would be an african. If i migrated from Egypt to America. I would be an African American.

I think we need to better redefine the names our our races, some races still hold association with the geograpical areas they live in.

However, we don't call all Asian people chinese because not all asians are mongoloids. What are white people called Cocasian? But they lived in all of these geographic areas that *asians* lived in. So why are all *asians* associated with mongoloids? or rather the world associates the geographic area of Asia (Which is a huge landmass) as the being solely populated by mongoloids.

It's a bit complicated because humans have migrated. We may assume our linages based on geneology and geographic knowledge and records but beyond that.

All humans stem from the same common ancestors. That is what makes us human. But its funny some of these definitions of ractial types are projected upon humanity as a whole as labeling africans black people who moved to america as african american. I'm pretty sure the common terminology is Negroid, caucasoid, Mongoloid, Theres some others or w.e But these have to do with phenotypes and are the scenitific name for those *black people* who came from the sub-sahara.

It's not going to help if you start calling people negroids because of the abriviated form is offensive.
However, black people just just as well call us Cockies or cocky. I'm sure the slurr would be much more subtle. And calling a mongoloid a savage mongolian would sure win you a spot on their dislike list.

If it matters. All of these ractial names are hilarious.
Lol. I'm white and i can proudly say were are obsessed with the word cock. Hell we bred roosters for thousands of years.

Point is leave the race thing alone if it offends you and if people are genuinely racist. Remind them of how small and insignifigant the world is. remind them that they live on a tiny ass blue dot and the closest thing you have to a friend that will help us if we were invaded by aliens is that man/woman of various shades from pigments or lack there of will be by your side.

Until then we are all spinning on this ball hurrling around the sun and you being your color is not any supperior to that of a blue or orange star.

They will be left fuming with rage. And if you want to dig deep start talking about aliens and about how even if we care so much about race the aliens don't they make no distinction between humans.
And in the end we will all have to band together if we expect to survive out in space. They will pretty much give up and re-evaluate their existance well contemplating by themselves.



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: AnuTyr

I always thought for a bit of equality on that topic...
It would be best to use the country rather than the whole continent...

People say Irish-American, Italian-American...
I've never myself heard the term European-American...



Maybe it has been used, but from a UK perspective I've never heard it.



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: AnuTyr
a reply to: spirit_horse

What does african american even mean? If i were an Egyptian. I would be an african. If i migrated from Egypt to America. I would be an African American.

I think we need to better redefine the names our our races, some races still hold association with the geograpical areas they live in.

However, we don't call all Asian people chinese because not all asians are mongoloids. What are white people called Cocasian? But they lived in all of these geographic areas that *asians* lived in. So why are all *asians* associated with mongoloids? or rather the world associates the geographic area of Asia (Which is a huge landmass) as the being solely populated by mongoloids.

It's a bit complicated because humans have migrated. We may assume our linages based on geneology and geographic knowledge and records but beyond that.

All humans stem from the same common ancestors. That is what makes us human. But its funny some of these definitions of ractial types are projected upon humanity as a whole as labeling africans black people who moved to america as african american. I'm pretty sure the common terminology is Negroid, caucasoid, Mongoloid, Theres some others or w.e But these have to do with phenotypes and are the scenitific name for those *black people* who came from the sub-sahara.

It's not going to help if you start calling people negroids because of the abriviated form is offensive.
However, black people just just as well call us Cockies or cocky. I'm sure the slurr would be much more subtle. And calling a mongoloid a savage mongolian would sure win you a spot on their dislike list.

If it matters. All of these ractial names are hilarious.
Lol. I'm white and i can proudly say were are obsessed with the word cock. Hell we bred roosters for thousands of years.

Point is leave the race thing alone if it offends you and if people are genuinely racist. Remind them of how small and insignifigant the world is. remind them that they live on a tiny ass blue dot and the closest thing you have to a friend that will help us if we were invaded by aliens is that man/woman of various shades from pigments or lack there of will be by your side.

Until then we are all spinning on this ball hurrling around the sun and you being your color is not any supperior to that of a blue or orange star.

They will be left fuming with rage. And if you want to dig deep start talking about aliens and about how even if we care so much about race the aliens don't they make no distinction between humans.
And in the end we will all have to band together if we expect to survive out in space. They will pretty much give up and re-evaluate their existance well contemplating by themselves.



I hate one line answers..But this is correct.
The British did go to south Africa ..
Thus making them white in color... and African....


Dave Mathews ... Chalise Theron?
edit on 22-12-2014 by Bigburgh because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:51 PM
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originally posted by: Bigburgh

originally posted by: caladonea
a reply to: samerulesapply

To me you are confusing...do you have a shorter...straight to the point version?


That is the point.
She/he
Black, white, light brown or Asian...

I could see it in the writing..
OP was dancing around the race subject....
It was clearly uncomfortable for the OP..
Yes it could have been said direct in one paragraph..
But it was very clearly uneasy for the OP to come out and just say it.


I was just blowing off a bit of steam and trying to have some fun and prompt some discussion.

As it's the rant section, I didn't really want to condense my outburst into a few lines or paragraphs as I feel it kind of detracts from what makes a rant a rant, you have to be overly verbose, dramatic, theatrical even, these are ranting guidelines that for some reason I blindly established and followed sub-consciously, and I never really questioned it until now.



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:52 PM
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a reply to: Bigburgh

I offend everyone. People are too touchy lol.



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: samerulesapply

no you are not Hitler or like hitler. Hitler is Dead. Or in a frozen jar somewhere.

No i mean that statement you made. Could be interprited as eugenics. Simply because you mentioned hair eyes and skin color LOL.

Don't mention any of those EVER. Unless you are describing someone then yes go for it.
But don't attach certain bad qualities to the invidiual just because they have those traits you mentioned. After mentioning them you have to clarify that, just because he has these characteristics does not mean people with those are bad or you are insinuating they are bad but rather are making a description to know who the person is. if you are describing a story. You don't have to mention skin color if the people around you are ractially tense lol.

Just talk about said person as if the person is just like any other person with no distinction of precise labelling. Unless you are talking to a cop i'd leave the fine details out unless you want people to attach the idea that this story is about a specific race and you are saying it to reaffirm suspecions of hate towards said race.

Yeah its complicated sort of but you need to be careful in Merka or w.e talking about such stuff out in the open. You gotta be clear that you are naieve and innocent and you are simply making it easy to label down say.. a person you are looking for. Sure, Lebel away like that. Story mode? Do not even think about saying stuff like that in public... unless you want to leave out the color of course.



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 08:58 PM
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Yeah someday you won't be able to say woman, man or child to describe people. How sick.



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: samerulesapply

It's all good.




posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 09:05 PM
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a reply to: AnuTyr

You know that guy...with the head and arms...what? His eyes? What about his eyes? There's something reeeeally sinister about yyyyou! HITLER!

Sorry just typing out aloud, we live in a really weird world...when I was young everything was new, and odd...everything was like....whooooaaah! Ooooooh! Aaaaaaah!

Now everything's weirds and it's more like...Eeeeh? You whaaaaa? What daaa ffff....etc.

Hair colour stuff is actually quite popular here...it's more playful than serious but it's there, blonde's are apparently idiots, ginger folk...take your pick, just about any mean attribute can be attached to an unfortunate ginger here in scotland.

To be fair, most of the people taking part in this stuff wouldn't know what eugenics was, they'd reckon it's probably a band from the 80's - new wave romantic smut type stuff, I can just imagine it now, hideous it is.

I suppose you get your extremists for everything, some folk would just advise that you dye your curly, copper locks a different colour...others wanna remove 'em from the gene pool.

I think in the end it always boils down to someone somewhere wants to be a bully or has some personal junk that needs addressing. Picking on peoples attributes is just a means to an end a lot of the time.

Still...I dunno, I was thinking if this dude hears what happened and takes exception to my naive honesty I was maybe gonna show him this thread...I contemplated that as an option, probably a stupid one. But I won't now, some of the responsed, though honest and quite funny, were potentially offensive.

I hope he don't hear nothing about it, or if he does he thinks it's silly, like I do.

I'll be sure to let you all know.



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 09:06 PM
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a reply to: Bigburgh

lol that's why racism today is not tolerated by Law in many countries simply because the history of everyones passed has made being picky irrelivant since all of humanity has relied upon each other as brothers and sisters to survive and get to the point were we are today.

if it wasn't for the Negroids, America wouldn't of had its agriculture developed properly. If it wasn't for the mongoloids. America wouldn't have a red-skins football team or a rail-way LOL kidding.

Since native americans and native asians both hold similar traits in the phenotype to that of the phenotype monoloid.

And then the cocucius rideth upon a white horse as a white knight cock blocking among the house of cocious full of cocioids LOL struttin their stuff gouging each others eyes in Arenas and such.

The Ancient world was a mysterial and smelly place full of Death and famine, pillaging campaigns and the total destruction of civilizations. Must of been one heck of a show. And here we are today. Debating something as trivial as how much light we reflect from the sun LOL.



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 09:17 PM
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a reply to: AnuTyr

As stated by another poster.. is there a shorter version..
Get to the point kind of deal..
It counts..
If getting to the point just quick means describing ones skin color.
Then say it..
Lives are at stake..

Say it... now.. I'm white!..
Did I just pull up a rental truck in front of an Oklahoma federal building( because saying a lerpy dumb looking white guy ) could that have shaved off 20 extra minutes...
it could of..
I don't know I was working in the emergency room that day..
But positive descriptions matter..

Also your avitar reminds me of Iron Maiden

edit on 22-12-2014 by Bigburgh because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 09:24 PM
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To be honest, the first draft was an abridged and somewhat more terse version of the thread I eventually posted. It went something like this.

He's a black guy, who's bald.
and I'm white...opinions please!

But I tarted it up a bit.



posted on Dec, 22 2014 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: samerulesapply
LMFAO! ( no worries... you matter )
OK OK..just let it ride.

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