North Korea May be Under Mass Cyber Attack

a reply to: NoRulesAllowed
Yes, everything we've been fed about NK suggests they wouldn't be able to do this. Not without a lot of direct help. Pictures of soldiers at the DMZ using 50s era surveillance equipment and driving 40s era military trucks etc.

I watched a documentary maybe three years ago where it was obvious that they would shift basic recourses around while the journalist was on tour to make it look like they had normal recourses. Restaurants that he attended would be set up in advance to look like there was food available and then it would be cleared away even as he was getting ready to leave etc.

What really struck me was that at the hotel and at the school he attended they had 80s era desktops brought in for the tour and there wasn't even a place for them to be plugged in, never mind an internet connection. This is a place where it is illegal for the public to own a camera. Cell phone are occasionally snuck in from China by dissidents (they can reach China's cell towers if they're close enough to the boarder). If a person uses a cell phone and they hear a car several blocks away they smash the phone and throw it out the window.

So in a place devoid of broadband era tech and a public with no access to computers, where does the skill set come from to pull something like this off without help from outside? Their experts don't even have enough knowledge about modern tech to fake how it should look. They have been caught several times using old tech in propaganda, claiming it is the latest bling.

a reply to: CraftBuilder

well just before all this happened just days before it happened ole john stewart had a gues on that was claiming she taught in nk for ten yrs at a collage. She said they at the school had no internet access and did not know it existed at all and she could not tell them it did. she claimed her students were the future leaders but that they studied computers every day and were extremely skilled at programming.


Lets not forget that their nuclear program baffles our scientist that claim nk does not have the infrastructure to produce what they actually do. I believe they have a fuel that we know nothing about. or at least our science knows nothing about.

originally posted by: CraftBuilder
a reply to: NoRulesAllowed
Yes, everything we've been fed about NK suggests they wouldn't be able to do this. Not without a lot of direct help. Pictures of soldiers at the DMZ using 50s era surveillance equipment and driving 40s era military trucks etc.

I watched a documentary maybe three years ago where it was obvious that they would shift basic recourses around while the journalist was on tour to make it look like they had normal recourses. Restaurants that he attended would be set up in advance to look like there was food available and then it would be cleared away even as he was getting ready to leave etc.

What really struck me was that at the hotel and at the school he attended they had 80s era desktops brought in for the tour and there wasn't even a place for them to be plugged in, never mind an internet connection. This is a place where it is illegal for the public to own a camera. Cell phone are occasionally snuck in from China by dissidents (they can reach China's cell towers if they're close enough to the boarder). If a person uses a cell phone and they hear a car several blocks away they smash the phone and throw it out the window.

So in a place devoid of broadband era tech and a public with no access to computers, where does the skill set come from to pull something like this off without help from outside? Their experts don't even have enough knowledge about modern tech to fake how it should look. They have been caught several times using old tech in propaganda, claiming it is the latest bling.

This article may answer your question:

rather than bring the Internet to the hackers, the North Korean regime brought the hackers to the Internet, at places such as the Chilbosan Hotel, which it partly owns in partnership with the Chinese.

www.thedailybeast.com...

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

i loved 'uridium' on the C64

Mainstream is reporting this now.

The US has said 'no comment'.

So honestly I am LOVING this.

Their entire internet knocked OFFLINE.

LOL.

Kinda scary at the same time.

Because if it was us ?

That means our government does have the internet 'kill switch'.

a reply to: RoScoLaz4

I used to write BASIC text-RPGs on my Commodore.

Oh the memories.

cool beans

a reply to: neo96

I don't think it's as much that the government has a "kill switch" rather than NK probably has fewer points of entry/exit to the internet backbone than most other nations due to it's herculean grip on internet control. With fewer entries/exits they are vulnerable to simpler attacks that at most might knock out a few thousand customers in the US, with much greater effect.

originally posted by: neo96

That means our government does have the internet 'kill switch'.

No it doesn't. That's total bollocks.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

lol, An American spy just smashed the TRS 80 they were using as a main hub with a baseball bat

or Maybe we just had google connect the search term "oral sex" to route over to North Korean servers for like 11 minutes and it crashed everything

who knows... it probably wasn't that hard to do

a reply to: deadeyedick

A simpler explanation than discovering some novel nuclear technology with practically no science infrastructure might be that they may have had outside help with their nuclear program and are getting computer equipment and training/hackware from outside as well.

a reply to: phoenix9884

"in partnership with the Chinese"

I would define that as outside help.

a reply to: CraftBuilder

true but does not explain the gap in infrastructure vs output of power.
i guess we can just pretend it is all hidden from the most advanced sattellites known to man.

I wonder if I could ask them if they have a working copy of Leisure Suit Larry kicking around?

a reply to: deadeyedick
Sorry, I'm not underatanding what you mean by output of power in this context.

a reply to: CraftBuilder

Nah, all they have over there is "Hanbok Myeong".

a reply to: daaskapital

It's all fun and games until some sleeper goes off or worse.

N. Korea's "internet" is probably pretty small -- I'd wager that only a handful of people in the government are allowed to even access it.

So, keeping a few thousand government officials from using the internet...

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
N. Korea's "internet" is probably pretty small -- I'd wager that only a handful of people in the government are allowed to even access it.

So, keeping a few thousand government officials from using the internet...

Yes..but the ones in NK that usually do have internet access are the ones that matter.

How would you like to be Kim Jong-un's tech support right now explaining to him why he can download porn or play World of Warcraft?