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originally posted by: MysterX
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: MysterX
To you and Charlie:
My stance is that those white lines in the sky behind airplanes that may or may not last for hours, the ones that look an awful lot like contrails, and act, an awful lot like contrails, are probably just contrails.
Could they be a clandestine military program? I doubt it based on my personal experience, but......I don't know for sure. What I do know is those lines sure do look and act just like contrails. So, knowing that, why do they have to be "chemtrails"?
Until you can give me a real answer to that question, I will continue to believe that those lines are most likely contrails.
Ball= your court.
That's probably the fairest reply i've ever seen you post in regards to this topic..and well, a star for you for that.
The honest answer to your question is that those white lines in the sky are NOT all chemtrails, and they most certainly don't HAVE to be chemtrails.
I'd argue a large number of what people routinely see are ordinary contrails, some short lived, some longer lasting depending on variable factors like hight of aircraft, temperature at the altitude the plane is at and so on...these are NOT what people are reporting in the main, although i most certainly do not doubt many ordinary contrails are misidentified as chemtrails.
My question to you, given that you have been open and honest in saying that you don't know whether they are actually spraying or not, is why for years now, you have so vehemently argued against the possibility of chemtrails and settle on calling those who are deeply suspicious of what may be carried out above their heads, 'idiots' who don't understand basic science?
The two positions don't seem to be the best of bedfellows.
Could it happen? sure. Things like it have happened. But...becasue they did happen is not proof of anything. And the biggest question of all, if they did do it, would it look like contrails? Could you even see it from the ground? remember, if it's for SRM, it would be above 50K feet.
I am actually against chemtrails as the whole idea is ignorant
originally posted by: jaws1975
a reply to: Zaphod58
That wasn't my question for network dude, my question is why does he admit they have happened, and in other threads he says the very idea of chemtrails are ignorant.
originally posted by: waynos
a reply to: jaws1975
I think you may have misunderstood the point. Spraying a substance from an aircraft (all the things I listed in my previous post as well as these military operations) are certainly not only possible, but factual. We know these operations happened before. They're just not chemtrails because, as defined by the ringleaders, none of them were sprayed right across the sky seven miles high spreading out. They were all, without exception, low level, targeted releases of small amounts. There is no resemblance to contrails and so no reason to suppose they would lead to anything that looks like contrails. Even if the technology has moved on, as many claim, any operation would still be limited by the capacity of the carrier aircraft and, at seven miles up, they'd be barely visible, if at all, from the ground and quickly dispersed in the upper air currents. Unless you know something different?
This is of course my own opinion, but it's how I understood the original point too
originally posted by: MysterX
...Let's put it this way..there is an outright ban on weather modification, and most patents cited include equipment specifically listed and patented for weather modification purposes...
The Convention bans weather warfare, which is the use of weather modification techniques for the purposes of inducing damage or destruction. The Convention on Biological Diversity of 2010 would also ban some forms of weather modification or geoengineering.
originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People
Nobody is denying that things have been sprayed out of planes. However, what some of us are saying is that the trails such as seen in the images below are not chemtrails, but contrails: