originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: SlapMonkey
So what should we do then SlapMonkey, just sit back and accept the fact that rather a significant proportion of law enforcement officers these days
are corrupt display racist tendency's or are just down right hostile towards the people they are supposed to serve and protect?
I would challenge you to prove your claim that "rather a significant proportion of law enforcement officers these days are corrupt display racist
tendency's or are just down right hostile towards the people they are supposed to serve and protect."
Unless you have more to go on than just the reports you see in the media, then you're just mouthing opinion based on skewed reporting.
People who maintain a position of authority cannot be perceived to be corrupt or at odds with the very laws there are supposed to protect or
enforce. Simple fact is that Police maintain what essentially amounts to a "them and us" philosophy regarding a significant proportion of the
general population. Why should we not view them with the same contempt that they display and direct toward a so many of our fellow human
I just argued this point on another thread, but I will assert the position that the extreme individuals on both
sides maintain an
us-versus-them mentality, and that it's not only the officers who need to make some changes on how they mold the LEO/citizen relationship. So, your
"simple fact" (which, of course, is actually and generalized opinion) works both ways. The only difference is that your average individual has
interactions with LEO maybe a few times per year, whereas LEOs interact with individuals multiple times a day, never knowing what type of indivdual
they will encounter--for their own safety, they should be on guard every time they engage an individual, whereas your average citizen can assume that,
unless they act like a jackass with the LEO, things will go smoothly and they'll just move on.
I think may people who argue that it's all the LEOs' collective fault forget exactly how potentially dangerous their job is on a daily basis, and
when the increasing anti-LEO sentiment is palpable in certain places of NYC (which is warranted in the Garner case), or Ferguson (which is unwarranted
when tied to the Brown case), if you're not increasing your defensive posture as an LEO, then you're a gullible, ignorant officer.
I fully agree with your comment about LEOs not being perceived to be corrupt or at odds with the laws, but they also can't be seen as always giving
an inch, or pretty soon they run out of inches in their position of authority, and then that authority is null and void. As I stated in my other
comment, this is a very fine line that LEOs and
civilians must ride--civilians can't have unreasonable demands on the authority of LEOs, but
more importantly, LEOs absolutely cannot abuse the power with which they are entrusted.
Both sides are guilty, but I still ask you to cite proof about your claims of the "significant proportion" of law enforcement being these corrupt,
lawless individuals, because I see the vast majority of them doing their jobs properly and well, with appropriate levels of respect for the citizenry
with whom they interact. I don't deny that large, densely populated cities tend to have higher corruption, but for the whole of average America, LEOs
are good people until you prove otherwise.