lol

some nice photo's you have there

Nice photos, I think a video would have been a lot better.

Maybe you should go back witha digital camera and get some good shots of vehicles, people, places etc around Area 51...





[edit on 13-12-2004 by Nexus]

I already did get shoots with a digi cam...look on my old post to see them.

Thanks, very helpful...

I waited a while for this, a video would have been nicer, but the pic work. Nice job.

I still remmber that thread lol good job with those pics but a video would have been nice aswell but still a good job

cool pics, im gonna go there myself someday when i aint too busy.

Nice pictures of the Blackhawk. From what I could tell (and it's kind of hard, given the blurry pictures) it is an MH-60x, where the x could be G (Pave Hawk), L, or K.

The giveaway is the refueling probe; internally, the MH series has a tremendoous ASE suite and iincorporates several unpleasant surprises for Bad Guys, including FLIR and quite a few munitions usually found only on the AH-64D Apache Longbow.

FWIW, many MH aircraft are in the inventory of the 160th SOAR, some very solid citizens in the military arena. This isn't to say that those folks were 160th SOAR, but it's certainly a possibility.

alriiiiight...im going to edit out the sound and show you all the video....this is going to take me awhile...because im going to play this to some music....and edit some footage out and whatnot.

I have to tell you that when you go messing around a classified area, you are asking for some serious problems. Along with rights, citizenship involves some responsibility. Whatever the military is working on in secrecy will keep you and your children safe tomorrow.

It's your life and I will suppose that you are of a sound mind, but personally, I would find something more productive to do with my time. If you do get a picture of anything worthy of note, you're not likely to have the opportunity to share it with whomever. You'll more than likely spend the next several years trying to convince a federal judge not to send you up the river for some self-reflection.

[edit on 04/12/14 by GradyPhilpott]

He's not doing anything illegal Grady, no harm done there...

Any more info on the SOAR OtS?

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I have to tell you that when you go messing around a classified area, you are asking for some serious problems. Along with rights, citizenship involves some responsibility. Whatever the military is working on in secrecy will keep you and your children safe tomorrow.

It's your life and I will suppose that you are of a sound mind, but personally, I would find something more productive to do with my time. If you do get a picture of anything worthy of note, you're not likely to have the opportunity to share it with whomever. You'll more than likely spend the next several years trying to convince a federal judge not to send you up the river for some self-reflection.

[edit on 04/12/14 by GradyPhilpott]

It is perfectly legal to be on public land may I note. I did not cross the line, nor did I do anything wrong. Yeah I pushed the "cammo dudes" a bit more than other people do...but thats because i know as long as i stay on the public land, theres nothing they can do.

By the way if I did see anything "noteworthy" and did get footage of it...I have enough respect for america to keep that said piece of footage out of public eye.

I am just showing a video of my summer vacation with my grandparents............................(kick ass grandparents eh?)

Originally posted by subscorpion

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I have to tell you that when you go messing around a classified area, you are asking for some serious problems. Along with rights, citizenship involves some responsibility. Whatever the military is working on in secrecy will keep you and your children safe tomorrow.

It's your life and I will suppose that you are of a sound mind, but personally, I would find something more productive to do with my time. If you do get a picture of anything worthy of note, you're not likely to have the opportunity to share it with whomever. You'll more than likely spend the next several years trying to convince a federal judge not to send you up the river for some self-reflection.

[edit on 04/12/14 by GradyPhilpott]

It is perfectly legal to be on public land may I note. I did not cross the line, nor did I do anything wrong. Yeah I pushed the "cammo dudes" a bit more than other people do...but thats because i know as long as i stay on the public land, theres nothing they can do.

By the way if I did see anything "noteworthy" and did get footage of it...I have enough respect for america to keep that said piece of footage out of public eye.

I am just showing a video of my summer vacation with my grandparents............................(kick ass grandparents eh?)

Technically, it's NOT legal! If you were near Groom Lake, you should have seen the Red signs that say: PHOTOGRAPHY OF THIS AREA IS PROHIBITED BY LAW They are usually right near the signs that say RESTRICTED AREA

Illegal or not, if they dont want you there, youre not going to be there. Think logically. Being a former member of the "grey" ops community, and having dealings with the black on occasion, If they dont like you, youll disappear, or have an unfortunate accident. Theres more than one reason its in the middle of a desert. Besides usually good flight weather, the desert is still a dangerous place. In the summer, heat and rapidly developing sand storms may cause the road to disappear and next thing you know, your on the wrong side of the line, and legally shot. Winter, some of the sands after rains become quick sand, enough said there. and lastly, if youre a lone vehicle, they could in theory just come up, kill or restrain you and said vehicle, never to be heard from again, and you know that thyell deny any knowledge of you being there, and since a large part of america and the world either think we SHOULD stay away since its real, and the rest of the large part think were all just nut cases and someone other than the government is not telling the truth.
My advice, remember the Rattlesnake, where theres one, theres another you dont see yet. Samew goes for that truck, and most likely the Blackhawk. Not a Pave, its missing some of the telltale signs. Fuel boom is a start, but, youll know the difference when you see one..

Why didn't they collect your camera?

I can't access the site that holds your pics and I can't see the ones that other members have posted here...can anyone else try and post them?

Originally posted by Nygdan
Why didn't they collect your camera?

They didnt collect my camera because i did not break the law.

I am thinking logically, and logical thinking tells me I am allowed to film on public land, without the government interfering. Yeah sure I could have crossed the line and then it would have all went down from there, but i didnt. Is it so wrong that i know my rights? I got all these people telling me i did something wrong...why dont you reasearch it a bit more before you start to tell me this stuff. If i did something wrong with the cammos right there, you dont think they they would have busted me? Of course they would...thats what the freaking get paid to do.

The only thing that happend is when i snuck up over the hill and found him out of the car and yelled "hey!" he said something like "watch it kid" or something im not too sure and got in his car. He's a human being...he gets paid to protect the border...not to shoot innocent civilans. These guys go home to families just as we all do. I wonder if you realize this in your blabberings.

Yeah just imagine the government explaining a whole missing family to someone...what are they going to blame it on? We tell people where we are going as a precaution. We told Chuck where we were going..and we werent back in a said amount of hours, to contact a search team.

By the way you stated they could, in theory, kill my ass while im out there. Okay so in theory couldnt those same people come to your house and put lead in your head? Or hell...in theory...a meteor could come down, hit your house, and bam....your dead.

Look the point of everything was not to argue...it was to prove a point. I have my bases covered...im not an amature at this...this was my second trip to the base.

Originally posted by question_reality
Illegal or not, if they dont want you there, youre not going to be there. Think logically. Being a former member of the "grey" ops community, and having dealings with the black on occasion, If they dont like you, youll disappear, or have an unfortunate accident. Theres more than one reason its in the middle of a desert. Besides usually good flight weather, the desert is still a dangerous place. In the summer, heat and rapidly developing sand storms may cause the road to disappear and next thing you know, your on the wrong side of the line, and legally shot. Winter, some of the sands after rains become quick sand, enough said there. and lastly, if youre a lone vehicle, they could in theory just come up, kill or restrain you and said vehicle, never to be heard from again, and you know that thyell deny any knowledge of you being there, and since a large part of america and the world either think we SHOULD stay away since its real, and the rest of the large part think were all just nut cases and someone other than the government is not telling the truth.
My advice, remember the Rattlesnake, where theres one, theres another you dont see yet. Samew goes for that truck, and most likely the Blackhawk. Not a Pave, its missing some of the telltale signs. Fuel boom is a start, but, youll know the difference when you see one..

my previous post was not against you. My point was to everyone else. If you were doing something illegal, they would have nabbed you, or as some of the signs state, shot you on sight. My statement was simply saying they do watch whos out there to make sure you dont cross that line. If everyone was so worried you had done something wrong, obviously, at the very minimum, you wouldnt have the pics to show from that day. My extreme situation explanation was more to say if they wanted to they could, even if you werent doing something illegal. ( key word being extreme. Yes, in extreme theory the MIB is gonna shut down this site and all others similar to it and hit us all with that "flashy thingy" and or just kill us all in our sleep.) and especially since they didnt, why worry as long as your not doing anything illegal/questionable. The only statement in that post immediatly directed you you were I dont believe its a PaveHawk, missing a few things, and where theres one, theres probably another one that you didnt see at all. Not that the other was the one gonna snuff your life, but the other one was gonna make sure you didnt think you knew where they were, go somewhere else and try to get across the line, not that it sounds like you would intentionally do such a thing anyway.

[edit on 12/16/2004 by question_reality]