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posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 07:13 PM
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I don't know how many people remember, or even know about this interview. As far as I can ascertain this man has never been debunked, contradicted nor even disrespected.
I believe that this man's story deserves to be heard again.
I understand that Dr. Steven Greer is anathema for most UFOlogists but still. A man with a story is worth listening to.
This is NOT the story of Dr. Steven Greer. It's the testimony of Don Phillips.



I hope you enjoy this video those who have not seen it before.

I would have added to these threads but they seem to have been ignored for many years.

starwatcher1 www.abovetopsecret.com...
Groomforce thread www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here is an old link to some info www.galactic-server.com...


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posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 08:02 PM
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Flagging to watch later.



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 08:54 PM
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A very good listen, interesting disclosure of what he knows. Thanks for posting information, some people appreciate it.

Try not to worry about the skeptics, they have a right to thier opinions.

I thought it was interesting how the ET's have been here for quite some time, sounds like they have been aiding in the guidance of our society at the highest levels.

Makes one wonder what the future of our civilization will be like, I am guessing in our future civilization individuals will be all knowing as information technology becomes released downloading all known knowledge and experiences into every individual, making the many become the one, and the one become the many. Just a thought.



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 10:19 PM
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originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
A very good listen, interesting disclosure of what he knows. Thanks for posting information, some people appreciate it.

Try not to worry about the skeptics, they have a right to thier opinions.
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...Makes one wonder what the future of our civilization will be like, I am guessing in our future civilization individuals will be all knowing as information technology becomes released downloading all known knowledge and experiences into every individual, making the many become the one, and the one become the many. Just a thought.


There is a theory proposed in the Wingmakers material that the goal of ruling cabal is the realization of trans-humanism where in everybody shall be upgraded with technology.

Of course the cabal will get superior tech, DNA upgrades, etc creating a permanent caste system.

The secondary goal is to delay humanity's realization that we are all infinite, God-like sovriegn beings with no need for controllers.

For their part, the ETs are looking to advance their genetic capacity in order to create actual "soul carriers" not just bio androids so they may play god to human beings.

It makes the most sense to me of any theories I have read.



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 10:53 PM
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originally posted by: mcChoodles

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

A very good listen, interesting disclosure of what he knows. Thanks for posting information, some people appreciate it.



Try not to worry about the skeptics, they have a right to thier opinions.

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...Makes one wonder what the future of our civilization will be like, I am guessing in our future civilization individuals will be all knowing as information technology becomes released downloading all known knowledge and experiences into every individual, making the many become the one, and the one become the many. Just a thought.




There is a theory proposed in the Wingmakers material that the goal of ruling cabal is the realization of trans-humanism where in everybody shall be upgraded with technology.



Of course the cabal will get superior tech, DNA upgrades, etc creating a permanent caste system.



The secondary goal is to delay humanity's realization that we are all infinite, God-like sovriegn beings with no need for controllers.



For their part, the ETs are looking to advance their genetic capacity in order to create actual "soul carriers" not just bio androids so they may play god to human beings.



It makes the most sense to me of any theories I have read.



Oooh WINGMAKERS and DR. NERUDA good stuff, I really like the idea of each and every soul having a Sovereign Integral Network or a universe where you are manifest as god very interesting indeed. Considering that the evolution of this network is said to be sub atomic it reminds me of the kingdom of heaven within from various scriptures. According to various Wingmaker materials this network already exits our society just needs to stop the non progressive evils of self hatred and self destruction to usher in this new age of not nanotechnology but solid light sub atomic technology.

There does however seem to be a mass dumbing down of the population and a new rally towards self destruction, doubling down on fear, racism, skepticism, materialism, and anything that would further divide our civilization to thwart its evolution. Theres even a trend of its ok do be tortuous villians like those known only in comic books or the inquisition rearing its head attempting to lead the many into the thought that evil perpetrated on our fellow beings is the correct path.

Its like our civilization is mass producing the RED SKULL in the hearts and minds of the people, right out of marvel comics and this evil mastermind is running the show and people are now all for false pride, low self esteem, mass unemployment, mass prisons, torture, duality, ignorance of our true unity, materialism, lies, mass destruction, fear, and hatred only to delude all societies from seeking out a more loving destiny.

Heres the Sovereign Integral Network said to be our societies destiny from some of the Wingmakers material, really very interesting. It is also in my opinion that the above mentioned darkness has been projected onto this world to hold all sentient beings from thier more divine destiny.


Sovereign Integral Network is actually a sub-atomic network of light-encoded filaments that exist in all dimensions of the multiverse. Think of Sovereign Integral Network as an infinite number of threads of light issuing from Source Reality, and, like a web, connecting every life form at its entity level to all other entities and First Source. This is an organic network that is utilized by First Source to transmit knowledge to entities and to receive knowledge from entities.

When a human species transforms its genetic mind/group thinking frequency to utilize the Sovereign Integral Network, this then becomes the “ship” upon which it sails the seas of the cosmos. And in this way, the species is allowed to become “Gods” of newly created worlds in which it can re-enact the entire process of the Grand Experiment utilizing its knowledge base and wisdom that was achieved in the previous stage of its existence. On a grand scale, this process is cast in countless worlds across the multiverse, and orchestrating all of this wondrous activity of creation is Source Intelligence and Sovereign Integral Network



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 02:11 AM
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I've always wondered if humanity is a violation of a prime directive equivalent. We went from horse and carriage to space and the moon in 60 years. I wonder if we either accidentally or intentionally received advanced ET tech. The "intervention" in humanities affairs at the top level may be their method of trying to contain the damage it caused.

Anyways just a thought...

SnF op.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 02:12 AM
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Is that what flags are for? I'd been giving them to random people.


originally posted by: Razmijix
Flagging to watch later.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 05:04 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
I've always wondered if humanity is a violation of a prime directive equivalent. We went from horse and carriage to space and the moon in 60 years. I wonder if we either accidentally or intentionally received advanced ET tech. The "intervention" in humanities affairs at the top level may be their method of trying to contain the damage it caused.

Anyways just a thought...

SnF op.


Rather like the people of Krikkit in Douglas Adams' Hitchiker's guide to the galaxy series of books



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 05:06 AM
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originally posted by: Asynchrony
Is that what flags are for? I'd been giving them to random people.


originally posted by: Razmijix
Flagging to watch later.


I gave you a star for the lol



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 05:29 AM
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I'm about 15min into the video and I was a little surprised that he explains his sighting very similar into what I had experienced. The maneuvers were different, the time was different, the number of craft were different, but the feel you get from watching the strange behavior of these things is uncanny.

Here is my story: link

Out of my experience, my biggest take away was how one light (drone or craft) detaches from the other light (drone or craft) of a different color only to return and "merge" into one pulsating light and fly away. ...beats me. And this wasn't anywhere near a known military base.

Back to watching.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 06:05 AM
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a reply to: Jonjonj

Isn't this just a re-run of Colonel Corso's claims? I'm skimming through to hear anything that confirms the account or undermines it.

At 22:00, he mentions that we got bulletproof vests, computer chips, night-vision and lasers from friendly aliens. All of these products have histories and developmental stages that precede even the existence of the USAF in its current form. They were also being thought about or coming into being prior to the establishment of Lockheed.

Body armour has been used for centuries and bullet-proof vests were conceived probably 5 minutes after someone important got shot at. Here's a cool-looking one from early WW2.



Maybe it's Kevlar? Well that one was discovered in the mid-60s through polymerisation of terrestrial, familiar chemicals within a company (DuPont) that specialised in R&D. We could go chapter and verse, including link after link to the histories of these products and yet it'd be pointless as we've all probably decided whether we believe him or not already.

For me, I don't believe him and it's not just because his promoter is Uber-grifter Greer. It's because if he was a scientist/engineer, he'd know that his products had a terrestrial history. He's literally repeating Corso's claims one after another. Even the Roswell crash was 'because of radar' claim is in there. He's the sole guy behind 'light cities technologies incorporated' which raises a little flag.

It's been established that Greer has/had a bunch of shell companies selling 'free energy' devices. Is it possible that Phillips was a front story to attract customers to 'Light Cities?'

What's much more interesting is where do these people get their skills from? They can talk fluently for long periods of time and appear so relaxed and plausible that it's little wonder people believe them. That in itself is peculiar indeed. Doty, Moore, Greer, Bob Dean and the dude with the 'Tall Greys' stories can talk indefinitely and with (apparently) sincere emotions.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 06:12 AM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
At 22:00, he mentions that we got bulletproof vests, computer chips, night-vision and lasers from friendly aliens. All of these products have histories and developmental stages that precede even the existence of the USAF in its current form. They were also being thought about or coming into being prior to the establishment of Lockheed.

Body armour has been used for centuries and bullet-proof vests were conceived probably 5 minutes after someone important got shot at. Here's a cool-looking one from early WW2.



Maybe it's Kevlar? Well that one was discovered in the mid-60s through polymerisation of terrestrial, familiar chemicals within a company (DuPont) that specialised in R&D. We could go chapter and verse, including link after link to the histories of these products and yet it'd be pointless as we've all probably decided whether we believe him or not already.


The history and development of all these things is very well documented, there is no huge jump in technology, just a steady progression that you can clearly see with just a little bit of research. But some people want to believe man is not capable, so it must be aliens.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 06:20 AM
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a reply to: hellobruce

The intended audience aren't likely to check the claims and go from gut-instinct on how trustworthy the man seems. I mean, he's a 'credentialed' scientist from a famous R&D team and just look at how bloody believable he is! It's not like just anyone can claim they worked for Skunkworks is it??



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 06:34 AM
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a reply to: FormOfTheLord




I thought it was interesting how the ET's have been here for quite some time, sounds like they have been aiding in the guidance of our society at the highest levels.


But that's what i find disturbing about this whole scenario...not the principle that advanced (one would assume culturally, scientifically and technologically advanced) ET's are interfering in the direction Humanity is headed, as i don't find that disturbing at all per se, (i rather think we could do with a benevolent hand from elsewhere TBH).

What i find most troubling is if they ARE and HAVE been lending a hand for some time...the results are the world we have had over the last century or so!

One would hope that an advanced species with a higher tech, science and culture would improve our lot...that doesn't seem to be the case...we have more war, more inequality, more haves and have nots, and generally a less respectful and ever encroaching oppressive society...if this is the direction ET is taking our species...i say they have done enough..more than enough and we'd be better off without their 'help'.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 06:37 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

The body armour thing isn't about the conception of body armour, or the idea of putting something between our soft body and a sharp or fast projectile trying to make its way into our soft bodies (oh er), but rather the materials that make up the body armour.

Kevlar and kinetic dampening composites specifically are what they're talking about.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 06:47 AM
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a reply to: MysterX

Hiya M.

Yep, I realise that and recognise the difference. The thing is, all of these products have a history preceding Phillips or even Corso's claims. A few years ago, I spent a few hours reading the academic histories of them to cross-check any of Corso's claims. Without exception, they all had terrestrial origins, proofs of concept and technological steps leading up to their production. Corso also included light-fibre tech which similarly has a history going back into the late 19th Century iirc.

Isn't it curious that Skunkwork engineers have the loyalty and contracts to keep quiet about their doings? You know? They aren't known for leaking secrets or exposing secret technology via YT videos. Yet here we have another alleged engineer making the biggest claims of all! No legal repercussions? Off they go around the UFO conference circuit and the US National Security apparatus can't do anything to stop them? The same apparatus that fights wars, protects secrets and can use torture techniques can't stop guys like Phillips?

...or he's no more a Skunkworks engineer than you or I.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 07:04 AM
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originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: FormOfTheLord








I thought it was interesting how the ET's have been here for quite some time, sounds like they have been aiding in the guidance of our society at the highest levels.





But that's what i find disturbing about this whole scenario...not the principle that advanced (one would assume culturally, scientifically and technologically advanced) ET's are interfering in the direction Humanity is headed, as i don't find that disturbing at all per se, (i rather think we could do with a benevolent hand from elsewhere TBH).



What i find most troubling is if they ARE and HAVE been lending a hand for some time...the results are the world we have had over the last century or so!



One would hope that an advanced species with a higher tech, science and culture would improve our lot...that doesn't seem to be the case...we have more war, more inequality, more haves and have nots, and generally a less respectful and ever encroaching oppressive society...if this is the direction ET is taking our species...i say they have done enough..more than enough and we'd be better off without their 'help'.






Good points who knows if its the aliens with the technology are the ones into mutilation, torture, self destruction, materialism and the other current trends of masochism that have been developing in our culture and seem to have a vice grip on our societies evolutionary progress.

I seriously doubt there is some alien super villans like Dr Doom ploting our demise, but then again you never know. I think there are some who are in a position of villiany but they arent aliens at all just evil humans perpetrating evil on other humans as well as any other life on earth or any other planet that gets in the way of thier selfish pride and materialisms.

I would personally recomend a mentality of nonduality and stop seeing each other as enemy and understand a greater unity that exists even in our super villians. Meaning we are all one, the sooner we stop the us vs them mentality the sooner we can move on in a progressive manner not towards universal destruction and destroying each other and our world but of universal love for ourselves and our world by realizing we are all one. By hatred of others we hate ourselves, and by loving them we love ourselves too because we are all quantum entangled with each other.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 07:30 AM
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a reply to: mcChoodles

dont get me wrong it sounds really good

BUT

the so called PTB or who ever is running the show

would not benefit so it probably wont happen

and i reaaly do wish i will be wrong



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 08:11 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

Hiya Kandy,


Bearing in mind we live in the digital age, research into whether or not certain technological ideas had Terrestrial origins or not, or at the least the conceptualising of these technologies came before or after 'retrieval' is a shadowy area to plough through i'd imagine.

A chicken or egg origin scenario is what i'm saying i guess. Did the Terrestrial history of technological concepts or even early developmental research into these technologies find their way into the record in a linear fashion..or did it find its way into the record afterwards, placed in such a way as to appear there was a developmental milestone process before 'retrieval' of the technology Phillips is talking about?

In this digital age, with the right personnel and the right access and resources, i'd be willing to bet it wouldn't be very difficult at all to 'insert' the information you wanted people who went on a historical treasure hunt, to find and come to a similar conclusion to yours.

Before digital, the same could have conceivably been done with analogue systems that would leave a paper trail...although i'd imagine it would be harder to both place the information that is designed to be 'found' and remove the information that was never meant to be found.

Which is a lot of waffle to say 'perhaps the information has been carefully placed and the origin of these devices and materials were not as they appear to be'.

As Phillips says himself, and having watched quite a few of these testimonies from similarly placed people over the years, is shared by many of them, they still honour their respective security oaths..mostly it seems out of a sense of duty and honour, some i suspect out of personal fear and safety of families and friends etc, but generally most will refuse to discuss sensitive specifics and i sense there is much, much more they are not talking about in comparison to that which they do open up about in these interviews and similar forums where their testimonies are given...again, a lot of waffle to basically say that these people seem to be intelligent and very mindful of the oaths they made, and the trouble they could bring on themselves, and their country if they opened up willy-nilly...they know how far they can go, sometimes possibly being right on the line of what can be said and what cannot.

Besides, i'd imagine if any of the agencies involved did actually take legal action against these people, it would be a tacit admission of what they are saying to the world, or at least would be construed as official verification of elements of their testimony...i would expect any alphabet agency would prefer absolutely nothing were said, but fully recognise and appreciate we're Human beings and some levels of exposure of projects and past experiences by people with high security clearances can and must be tolerated...as long as the line, the cut off between what absolutely must not be told and what can be viewed, begrudgingly as acceptable revelation is not crossed...as i say, i imagine most of these people are aware of this and are very mindful not to venture over the line.

Simply ignoring the 'acceptable' stuff, is probably seen by various agencies as the best way to deal with it, it doesn't draw attention, it leaves elements of doubt, and does not give the testimony any oxygen to thrive in the wild.

But...who knows, because of the effective secrecy and those mindful of their oaths..the truth is a matter of research into the individuals and their history in the jobs and positions they claim to have held coupled with a belief or gut feeling into what can reasonably be expected to be likely or not.


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posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 08:29 AM
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Ok, I'm not trying to sound cynical but with all these people that have "clout" that have come forward and presented their stories....

Maybe I've just spent too many late nights reading threads here but I'm starting to think that every one of these guys are disinformation ninjas.

Heaps of so called high-ranking people but it's all personal stories and hearsay.

I want to believe!

_ETA_

Obviously there are "documents"...but come on, I think it's so freaking weird, all these buggers say it's so but we still have not attained undeniable proof.

So all these buggers being disinformation agents makes more sense. Especially since there is yet undeniable proof. I bet Sherlock would think that too!

Also thank you Op for creating, I have not seen this one I believe and will give it a gander. S&F



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