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originally posted by: IslandOfMisfitToys
a reply to: Xcathdra
Does that blood test determine if the "subject" is actually impaired or if there is THC metabolites in the system.
I'll let you figure out the difference.
The Scientific Basics of THC and THC COOH (carboxy THC)
An example of useless information for determining marijuana-caused impairment is looking at urine in a lab. Urine is cheap and easy to test for the amount of one metabolite of THC. A metabolite is, simply put, a chemical produced by the body from another chemical taken into the body.
For our purposes, we’re looking at one of the hundred or so cannabinoids found in pot, delta-9 THC, being introduced into the body. That is the primary cannabinoid which gets us “stoned.” That is referred to as being “psychoactive.” The metabolite found in urine is inactive, having NO psychoactive effect. It is written THC COOH and read “carboxy THC.” It does not get anyone stoned. BUT, the metabolite is the chemical that may be found for weeks if not months after intake of the marijuana.
Being lipid (fat) soluble and not water-soluble (most medication is water-soluble) it is stored in the fat cells of the body for quite long after any impairing impact of the active THC remains. It may be found weeks or longer after the intake of marijuana, while the impairing effect of the active delta-9 THC may be almost gone within three hours more or less.
The level of the inactive cannabinoid THC COOH, found in blood or urine, reveals nothing about current impairment, and nothing about the time or amount of consumption. Contrary to the belief of some “experts” and of some prosecutors, the ratio of THC COOH to active THC also means nothing.
Since the metabolic process of the body converting (metabolizing) active THC into inactive carboxy COOH THC takes some hours, the presence of the inactive metabolite is arguably exculpatory, (showing a lack of guilt) because it indicates that the consumption was possibly not recent but was at least hours before the sample, blood or urine, was collected. The impairing effect of active THC appears to be most pronounced from about ½ hour to three or 4 hours after intake. This does NOT correspond to the blood level of active THC. The level in blood reaches a maximum almost immediately, and just as quickly drops in blood. This delay between blood level and impairment is described as “counterclockwise hysteresis.” It is noteworthy that mixing alcohol with marijuana causes impairment which is greater than would be expected from the blood levels.
Article By Leonard I. Frieling
I never said kids were getting it from dispensaries. There is plenty of medical weed on the streets. It's practically everywhere in my state. My entire family smoke pot. I know plenty of other people that do it also. There is plenty of medical pot hitting the black market. And yes there are plenty of kids getting their hands on black market medical pot. One jackass I know has a medical card and is growing and selling the stuff on the black market. He was actually dumb enough to take pictures of his buds and post them on facebook. That didn't last long though he grew a brain after someone warned him. When he gets caught they're going to take all of his expensive toys he's bought himself.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: wantsome
I voted for medical marijuana in my state I wish I wouldn't have. It's nothing more then a back door push for legalization. I voted for medical pot because like morphine I thought it could help the sick and dying. I didn't realize weed shops would be opening everywhere and people would be grossly abusing the system. I guess I was just naive. I know 14 year old kids that are getting their hands on medical weed. You can tell them what they might be doing could be harmful. They just say it's medicine it can't be that bad there aint nothing wrong with it.
That's BS. The kids with pot in their hands are buying it off of the black market not through legal dispensaries.
I have schizophrenia I was a heavy pot smoker until I came down with this illness. I've thought about trying CBD oil because I've read it might help with my illness. I have a friend with multiple sclerosis and he uses medical weed. I can't smoke the stuff if I do it's a paranoid psychosis for the duration of the high. I smoked it for years without any problems until my illness was triggered at age 22. I do believe that mj played a role in my condition.
In my opinion I would like to see the government get involved in sales and regulation. Cigarettes prescription drugs and alcohol are monitored marijuana needs to be also. Right now in my state the medical aspect is being severely abused by recreational uses.
The government IS involved with sales and regulation. Colorado setup its legal marijuana market to pretty much mirror how the alcohol market is ran (only buy over 21, need a special permit to sell, etc).
originally posted by: nullafides
a reply to: centhwevir1979
Well, blame it on the Mexicans....
Mexican immigrants introduce recreational use of marijuana leaf
After the Mexican Revolution of 1910, Mexican immigrants flooded into the U.S., introducing to American culture the recreational use of marijuana. The drug became associated with the immigrants, and the fear and prejudice about the Spanish-speaking newcomers became associated with marijuana. Anti-drug campaigners warned against the encroaching "Marijuana Menace," and terrible crimes were attributed to marijuana and the Mexicans who used it.
originally posted by: WatchRider
That's a new one on me. It's more to do with Du Pont Corporation not wanting Hemp to take over the paper industry and demonizing the dope you can make from hemp!
originally posted by: ElohimJD
In CO they are developing an "active THC" test.