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North Korea officially denies any involvement in Sony Hack, wants joint investigation with US

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posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:30 AM
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Did a quick search but didnt find anything.

OK so NK have officially come out and denied any involvement and whats more they are DEMANDING a joint investigation into it with the US.
They say they have proof they werent involved(?) and are sick of being slandered.
(Tin foil hat on firmly) I am somewhat inclined to believe them, I dont recall anything similar happening when Team America or the James Bond film about NK came out so I cant see them having an issue now.
I would imagine a megalomaniac who rumour says loves American pop culture would be somewhat pleased to to find himself the centre of a hollywood movie.

Check out the article
NK Denies Involvement in Sony Hack

what say you ATS?




posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:31 AM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff




NK Denies Involvement in Sony Hack


Would you actually expect them to admit to it?


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posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:35 AM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Why not?
What do they have to lose?
If anything it might make the world take them a bit more seriously I would think


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posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:40 AM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff




NK Denies Involvement in Sony Hack


Would you actually expect them to admit to it?


Sure or else what's the point. Is it really about a movie? Really? Come now.

I don't know it's pretty obvious to me they are being scapegoated. Anything else is like Homer Simpson stupid. I mean the # that is peddled as truth these days is astounding.



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:40 AM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

OPINION: Chalk it up to ... 'The Twilight Zone'.

( i.e. we'll never know without .... whistleblowers )

-
Some current ... 'For Examples':

FBI Confirms It Was North Korea!

Sony Hacking Case Shockingly Linked To Obama Regime
.



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:44 AM
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originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff




NK Denies Involvement in Sony Hack


Would you actually expect them to admit to it?


Sure or else what's the point. Is it really about a movie? Really? Come now.

I don't know it's pretty obvious to me they are being scapegoated. Anything else is like Homer Simpson stupid. I mean the # that is peddled as truth these days is astounding.


well they could be behind it.. even if there was proof the US might not be willing to prove it, there was another thread that suggested the US was able to prove it but that would mean disclosing how they know or something like that which is not what they want to do, possibly because of a mole who knows..



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:46 AM
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a reply to: Rosinitiate

Stop and consider who has the most to gain if they cut Sony off at the knees?
You don't need to look across the pond for possible culprits.



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:49 AM
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originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff




NK Denies Involvement in Sony Hack


Would you actually expect them to admit to it?


Sure or else what's the point. Is it really about a movie? Really? Come now.

I don't know it's pretty obvious to me they are being scapegoated. Anything else is like Homer Simpson stupid. I mean the # that is peddled as truth these days is astounding.


well they could be behind it.. even if there was proof the US might not be willing to prove it, there was another thread that suggested the US was able to prove it but that would mean disclosing how they know or something like that which is not what they want to do, possibly because of a mole who knows..



No, no they couldn't. North Korea isn't going to risk annihilation over a movie, a really, really, really stupid movie. They haven't so far after decades and decades of real bite you in the ass sanctions, where their countrymen starve and suffer from (whether they care or not). But nope, who cares about that just don't make any #ing dumb movies about me.

I was born at night, not last night.
edit on 20-12-2014 by Rosinitiate because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:50 AM
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Just think about how egotistic your average sheltered silver spoon is. Then it shouldn't be that difficult to imagine how totally over blown the ego of a person like kim would be, of course he'd be furious over a movie that portrays his assassination.

The fact that his denying it now really means nothing either. His probably just now got cold feet and is starting to realize he went to far.



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:51 AM
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Maybe Microsoft?....


www.businessinsider.com...




The hackers reportedly stole a key password from someone in IT. US investigators told CNN the hackers stole the computer credentials of a system administrator, which gave them broad access to Sony's computer systems. Once on the network, they planted malware. Some security experts, and documents obtained by Ars Technica, say that this was a form of "wiper" malware. Generally, that refers to malware designed to destroy the data, although in this case they used malware to collect data, too. The malware used Microsoft Windows management and network file-sharing features to spread, shut down the network, and reboot computers, reports Ars Technica. This so-called wiper was apparently a variant of the type that a group called DarkSeoul used on South Korean banks last year. The FBI confirmed that the Sony malware found resembled that used in the bank hack.


Could be a coincidence or?

Don't hackers usually like using Linex?
edit on 20-12-2014 by AnuTyr because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:51 AM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

DISCLAIMER:

Ok... I have no evidence for what I am about to say, and this is merely speculation, conjecture, and out of the box thinking on my part.
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Let us assume that North Korea are indeed innocent of hacking the Sony Pictures information, and making all this fuss about the release of the movie "The Interview". Let us also assume that you, IkNOwSTuff are correct, and that Kim Jong Un actually finds the idea of a movie which references his person in any small way what so ever, pleasing and amusing.

Who then, would be the most likely suspect for a hack which would interfere with Kim Jong Un's amusement? Well, what about South Korea? Perhaps S.K. did a frame up job on the North, just to ensure that the movie was not capable of becoming an inadvertent public relations tool for North Korea, and the person of Kim Jong Un, and of course, to ruin Kim Jong Un's year somewhat? Perhaps they wanted to turn the entire thing into yet another reason for the rest of the world to hate on North Korea?

That said, there are plenty of reasons to despise the way that the government of North Korea treat its citizens, and how they relate to other world powers as well. I just find the possibility of South Korea's involvement to be an interesting one to consider.

Carry on everyone!



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:52 AM
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a reply to: Rosinitiate




Is it really about a movie? Really? Come now.


It is until someone can prove otherwise.



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:53 AM
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I have thought from the beginning that it wasn't N. Korea. It isn't their MO. If they had done it they would have been parading around how they slapped the west in the face. There would have been photos of Kim in the room while the hack was taking place pointing at stuff and looking like he is leading. They would have announced their involvement like they have done with everything else so the world would know they have the capability to pull something like this off.

My opinion is whoever pulled the Sony hack off has bigger fish to fry with Sony than this movie.



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:55 AM
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originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: Rosinitiate

Stop and consider who has the most to gain if they cut Sony off at the knees?
You don't need to look across the pond for possible culprits.


It's homegrown for sure. Likely to pass and/or implement Internet security measure like net neutrality, censorship and kill switches. I think it was probably our NSA when they weren't busy reading our emails.



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:57 AM
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I am somewhat inclined to believe them

So am I.
It seems a little too easy to blame NK , I suspect the nation next door who have form and the tech for these type of hacks.
I look forward to the US response to the joint investigation request.



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:58 AM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Rosinitiate




Is it really about a movie? Really? Come now.


It is until someone can prove otherwise.


Bah, nonsense. My truth and reality isn't dictated by what others think or say including the FBI in all their wisdom. I just merely share my take, might be true or I might just be nuts. Look on the bright side though, I have to live with myself, you don't.



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:58 AM
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originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff




NK Denies Involvement in Sony Hack


Would you actually expect them to admit to it?


Sure or else what's the point. Is it really about a movie? Really? Come now.

I don't know it's pretty obvious to me they are being scapegoated. Anything else is like Homer Simpson stupid. I mean the # that is peddled as truth these days is astounding.


well they could be behind it.. even if there was proof the US might not be willing to prove it, there was another thread that suggested the US was able to prove it but that would mean disclosing how they know or something like that which is not what they want to do, possibly because of a mole who knows..



No, no they couldn't. North Korea isn't going to risk annihilation over a movie, a really, really, really stupid movie. They haven't so far after decades and decades of real bite you in the ass sanctions, where their countrymen starve and suffer from (whether they care or not). But nope, who cares about that just don't make any #ing dumb movies about me.

I was born at night, not last night.


its a nation that pretty much throws out threats every other week, perhaps they believe that America is not willing to prove it as it will reveal all their cyber espionage/spy ops or whatever it is they dont want the world to know about..

you can say that it definitely was NOT a NK attack on sony if you want, im just saying that it is a possibility.
edit on 20-12-2014 by choos because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 07:01 AM
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Bah, nonsense. My truth and reality isn't dictated by what others think or say including the FBI in all their wisdom.


Mine isn't either,but unless something is proven that it is about something other than the movie all you have is speculation, and speculation doesn't show proof.



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 07:01 AM
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originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff




NK Denies Involvement in Sony Hack


Would you actually expect them to admit to it?


Sure or else what's the point. Is it really about a movie? Really? Come now.

I don't know it's pretty obvious to me they are being scapegoated. Anything else is like Homer Simpson stupid. I mean the # that is peddled as truth these days is astounding.


well they could be behind it.. even if there was proof the US might not be willing to prove it, there was another thread that suggested the US was able to prove it but that would mean disclosing how they know or something like that which is not what they want to do, possibly because of a mole who knows..



No, no they couldn't. North Korea isn't going to risk annihilation over a movie, a really, really, really stupid movie. They haven't so far after decades and decades of real bite you in the ass sanctions, where their countrymen starve and suffer from (whether they care or not). But nope, who cares about that just don't make any #ing dumb movies about me.

I was born at night, not last night.


its a nation that pretty much throws out threats every other week, perhaps they believe that America is not willing to prove it as it will reveal all their cyber espionage/spy ops or whatever it is they dont want the world to know about..

you can say that it definitely was NOT a NK attack on sony if you want, im just saying that it is a possibility.


Ok, I'll concede it's possible, about as possible as me growing a tail. After all, I have a tailbone, stranger things have happened......like an act of war over a Seth Rogan movie. LMFAO!



posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 07:02 AM
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I see this as a clever move by North Korea, as they have now taken a bit of the spotlight of them and now put it in the US court. I can guarantee that the US will not agree with this and claim 100% proof they did it, without actually offering the release of such proof. I never thought the use of a movie to instigate a conflict would actually be seen as a plausible excuse.

Like others have said i do not see why a movie would push a person into something that has a big chance to bring about his downfall. To a neutral observer it appears that a group is being used to create a friction from which to create a fire. Who has hired this group i dont know, but we may find out as everything on the web leaves a footprint and ultimately it will be unearthed by someone.




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