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London police: we believe claims of ‘VIP’ child sex abuse and murder

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posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 04:51 AM
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Children vanishing without a trace every day are probably being sold off to these sick pedophiles. These sorts of "rings" most likely run a lot deeper than we all realize and some powerful individuals are behind them. Its a damn shame too.




posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 04:58 AM
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originally posted by: funkadeliaaaa
a reply to: Tangerine

First of all to answer your last point, I completely disagree.

Lets be clear about something. This is more than simply an alleged conspiracy. We know its a conspiracy! What and who is involved is not completely known for reasons of "national security". But it has been alleged many politicians and establishment figures are involved.

Read this:

www.exaronews.com...


I accept that there are pedophiles, and probably an organized ring of pedophiles, at high levels of government. It stands to reason because they exist at every level of society.

But I'm totally confused by your statement that you disagree with this:



To the above, you said you "completely disagree". But in your next post you said,



Please explain this contradiction.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 05:58 AM
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a reply to: Tangerine

For some reason the formatting hasn't showed what you're quoting in your reply.

This is what you said:

any alleged occult rituals are incidental and not a cause of the criminal behavior.
My point was I disagree that any alleged occult rituals are incidental. Let me put it this way. As you suggested its true child rapist pedophiles exist at every level of society, but these cases are dealing particularly with establishment figures. What I'm saying is, even though we have a democracy, the heart of the british establishment is still Buckingham Palace, the Monarchy. And the monarchy is very ritualistic. So that's something to think about.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 06:44 AM
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I guess after the whole Saville thing they can't stick their heads in the sand anymore. Something went on for sure and may still be going on. Having heard some disturbing rumors of ritual murder in Belgium and such one has to wonder just how much is true and how far up the ladder it goes. Reports going missing... Did they look behind the couch? That's where I always find things.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: Pitou

I remember seeing a story on skynews a few days ago where 'Cameron' was saying that it was time to move on from shaming 'politicians' who may or may not have done such things 30 odd years ago as it has no bearings on todays Government!

I understand what he's trying to say but i don't think its right to not address these issues... people need to get done for their actions (If they are still alive).



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 08:27 AM
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a reply to: funkadeliaaaa

I'm beginning to think(or rather, the idea has been gestating and maturing for quite a while now) that this so called New World Order may in many cases be partly decentralized, with the centralized aspect being invisible and constituting a network governed by non human intelligences. With perhaps small pockets of fully conscious overseers in strategic locations, these would be highly advanced dark occultists in direct communication with whatever force it is that they are seemingly channeling.

Being outside of the physical domain and perhaps outside of linear time as well would give so many advantages when orchestrating an undertaking of this magnitude, I can scarcely imagine that humans alone could organize in such an efficient manner as they seem to be doing.

And also, as there's a natural balance in all things, there would be other spiritual hierarchies involved as well.
We are simply the cogs and wheels, the levers and the pawns in this game, and while I would perhaps like to think that the outcome is already largely decided I'm not quite sure. These coming decades will be very interesting indeed, interesting and crucial.

Let's see if these investigations reveal anything of an occult nature eventually, that would blow the lid off a lot of things.
Can you imagine the frenzy of the public? It would be akin to "disclosure". What could they possibly do to stave off the repercussions of such revelations? Would it be game over for their plans or would they spin it as a random local incident?
Either way the "truth movement" would gain in leaps and bounds if it ever were to happen.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 08:53 AM
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a reply to: funkadeliaaaa



You think you really know what youre talking about here TrueBrit? If so, what are you basing your claims on that ritualistic behavour is highly unlikely at the upper echelons of society? Personal experience?


Maybe he's right-But if you are in a position to prove him wrong then by all means do so.

I'll agree with Brit on this. This could be more habitual than ritual, or perhaps it's a compulsive behavior. But that's just an observation and the people best suited to answer this question is the victims themselves.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Ph03n1x

Dirt attracts dirt.

By that I mean, that it is perfectly possible that there is a group of high powered child molesters out there, but I still find it highly unlikely that the incidents have anything to do with any pretence of ritual, no matter how dark in its aspect.


It is DEFINITELY ritual by nature. The Royal family and the elite are occult as ####



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: ItCameFromOuterSpace
a reply to: TrueBrit

It's always seemed to me that if these elites have access to unlimited knowledge to begin with that they would know none of that occult/supernatural baloney works anyway.


Maybe that's why they are elite and you are not. The complete lack of regret and the ability to do this is why you won't beat them. They are capable of doing anything to protect/further themselves where you are not.

They may also know that it doesn't work but do it anyways to create a situation where they justify what they do. Almost like a frat having a hazing week. It doesn't really do anything but initiate them into a club that is privileged.
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posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: Pitou

I don't even get how totally naive most of those
posting here are and still are. You just have no
understanding of the evil that exists in this world.
Why wouldn't people who can get away with anything,
do anything they want to others? Especially when, as this thread
demonstrates perfectly, the greater population of the common
ilk refuses to see past the nose on thier face. You still have no
clue how far and widespread this is even tho you keep reading
over and over,

WORLD WIDE PEDOPHYLE RING.



Unbelievable

If you want to know what's really going on in this world?
Read your Bible.

Jeremiah 19:5

"Because they have forsaken Me and have made this an alien place and have burned sacrifices in it to other gods, that neither they nor their forefathers nor the kings of Judah had ever known, and because they have filled this place with the blood of the innocent 5and have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as burnt offerings to Baal, a thing which I never commanded or spoke of, nor did it ever enter My mind; 6therefore, behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when this place will no longer be called Topheth or the valley of Ben-hinnom, but rather the valley of Slaughter.…

2 Kings 17:17
They sacrificed their sons and daughters in the fire. They practiced divination and sought omens and sold themselves to do evil in the eyes of the LORD, arousing his anger.




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posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 11:50 AM
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Im sure they are counting on the masses forgiving, and forgetting it. To actually eliminate these people from these high offices, we would have to overthrow it. Start over, because they will protect each other. They are not going to clean their own house. Which would mean Civil War. And deep down we all know that if these depraved individuals are truly in high offices, than we also know they will turn on their peons to preserve their control, even if it means sacrificing the masses.

The powers that be would do like they did to the bonus Army. And knowing we are the ones in the mass death catagory, it makes it a hard dilemma. An uprising to oust them will mean nothing less than civil war. And Im sure no one wants their children or childrens children living through a civil war.

So, just like the stories of the 800 children found in the Catholic Sewer, and the mass graves of countless children on Catholic owned property, or the horrific stories of "Boys Town USA", and the seamingly credible reports about a global Pedophile Ring, and evidence of the UK pedophile news, they are counting on the fact that we would rather "pray for a change", than "make" it happen . It isnt hard to weigh the wages of war on our soil. We have seen the destruction that has already been caused if you dare disagree with them or their policies.

So, in some sense I think a lot of decent people feel held hostage.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: funkadeliaaaa


This is more than simply an alleged conspiracy. We know its a conspiracy! What and who is involved is not completely known for reasons of "national security". But it has been alleged many politicians and establishment figures are involved.

Read this:

www.exaronews.com...


In the 1980's, a local newspaper editor had a "D" notice slapped on him to prevent publication of his paper's investigations into systemic child rape by prominent members of the British establishment.

Police currently investigating these same events have approached the editor and interviewed him about his journalists' findings.

I believe the link you provided gives details of this.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 01:15 PM
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Remember how Jimmy Savile bragged on television that he was such good friends with the British Royalty that he "practically had the keys to the back door of Buckingham Palace".

Now you can imagine what he was doing there... this world is being run by unbelievably sick people.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: Pitou

This reminds me of why the Roman Empire fell... Caligula, the movie, made about the mad Emperor, was very graphic, shocked and sickened me when I saw it a long time ago, yet I see the same behaviors going on, especially in the crumbling West, or maybe it's everywhere, just talked about more on this part of the globe. Like the movie, the more comes to light, the worst the stories are. The rot lies deep...



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: randyvs

Hear, hear!
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posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 01:54 PM
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It is kinda odd... there is a long history in the western world, even in modern times of these weird cabals of occultists in the halls of power who find power through ritual cult practices... and even if you don't believe all that is important is that they do. As has been mentioned by other members it is very likely certain personality types are identified, initiated and later held hostage by blackmail. One needs look no further in the US as the aforementioned Franklin Coverup but there is also the mysterious case of "The Finders" cult which was hushed up and classified as internal CIA security matter. The resources are easily accessible to anyone who wishes to learn more through dare I say... A simple google search. And if one really does want peak behind the curtain that is a strange mix of Intelligence Agencies, Psychological Warfare, Occult Rituals and Mind Control the above are good starting points along with Project Monarch, Operation Artichoke and Project MKUltra. The search for the "Manchurian Candidate" took those in the mind control programs here in the U.S. to some very strange places and aspects with a strange sychronicity spreads out like a spider web through American society giving little doubt to the speculation that similar programs and practices were carried out in the U.K. considering the close ties of the two allies during the cold war. Facts are facts and it is plain to see that a conspiracy has taken place in the U.K. in regards to sexual abuse of children and it is equally clear, at least to me, that this conspiracy continues.

Once one begins to unwind the threads of this spider web it leads to some odd places from the Process Church of the Final Judgment, to the Church of Satan, to Jim Jones and the CIA all the way through to the Kennedy assassination(both RFK and JFK) to the Manson Family. It is one Hell of a rabbit hole and as I previously posted, is covered in great detail, from primary sources, by Peter Levenda in his excellent trilogy of books; "Sinister Forces".

As a personal opinion in regards to the happenings in the U.K.; I do believe more will come out but at the same time I feel that very few will be held accountable and even fewer in their own lifetimes(Jimmy Saville for example). Unfortunately if there is a still functioning cabal of sadistic and dark cultists who either do are do not use children in ritual abuse , there is still likely a group in power who abuse children for non-ritualistic purposes at the very least. If that is in fact the case I fear we will never know the full extent of what has transpired as we will be forced to rely on victim accusations with no official in depth and far reaching inquiry because those in power will hinder it at every step just as we have seen in the past with regards to other disturbingly wrong actions by government employees; the shredding of the MkUltra docs by the CIA are just one small, known example.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
I agree. It's all blah de blah de blah. Talk ,talk talk. ACT, prosecute the perpetrators NOW. Not just keep talking til everyone forgets about it. In answer to SensiblyReckless they wait for people to die, but not the witnesses, but the criminals. Like Saville, he's dead, no one can hurt him now. If they are alive they can be made to account for their crimes and be punished. A dead man knows no shame.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: TechUnique
a reply to: randyvs

Hear, hear!
2nd


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posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 03:34 PM
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originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
a reply to: Pitou

I remember seeing a story on skynews a few days ago where 'Cameron' was saying that it was time to move on from shaming 'politicians' who may or may not have done such things 30 odd years ago as it has no bearings on todays Government!

I understand what he's trying to say but i don't think its right to not address these issues... people need to get done for their actions (If they are still alive).


Cameron is so transparent. It's obvious he wants to 'move on' because a proper and thorough investigation would show that it is still happening today.

The man is clutching at straws. He's already tried to pass it off as a crazy conspiracy theory.



posted on Dec, 21 2014 @ 03:37 PM
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originally posted by: TechUnique

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Ph03n1x

Dirt attracts dirt.

By that I mean, that it is perfectly possible that there is a group of high powered child molesters out there, but I still find it highly unlikely that the incidents have anything to do with any pretence of ritual, no matter how dark in its aspect.


It is DEFINITELY ritual by nature. The Royal family and the elite are occult as ####


What, precisely, do you mean by "occult"? Occult simply means secret as in secret knowledge. I don't know how you're using the word. Could you explain in some detail? Thanks.



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