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Originally posted by cstyle226
Either Shi'a or Sunni, I hope Iraq becomes an Islamic State like Iran. And I hope that Saudi Arabia becomes a Wahabi Islamic State soon, Insha'Allah.
Originally posted by cstyle226
Well, the goal is topple every single one of these corrupt governments, establish a single Islamic state, and follow the rules of God, which are perfect and peaceful. There will be no cut off of relations with the west.
Originally posted by FredT
Originally posted by cstyle226
Well, the goal is topple every single one of these corrupt governments, establish a single Islamic state, and follow the rules of God, which are perfect and peaceful. There will be no cut off of relations with the west.
You really belive that the Jihad will stop and stay in the middle east? I doubt that highly my friend.
My case in point is the 13th century and an obscure cleric by the name of Ibn Taymiyah. Taymiyah felt that Islam needed purification at any cost: quote: �Death of the martyrs for the unification people in the cause of god and his word is the happiest, best, easiest, and most virtuous of death�
This is the basis of Whabbism and is also the mantra of behaps the even more radical and certainly more violent Muslim Brotherhood. Following the radical propaganda that is preached at the Madrasahs or religious schools, is is nieve to think that they will contain themselves to the middle east, as global terrorism has shown, or suddenly have the desire to peacfully co-exist with the West.
Originally posted by cstyle226
You don't know what Jihad is, if you think it is a fight of aggression. Some people may say that, but the majority know that is not the truth.
The Noble Qur'an 2:190-193
191. And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-al-Har�m (the sanctuary at Makkah), unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
The Noble Qur'an 8:72-74
73. And those who disbelieve are allies to one another, (and) if you (Muslims of the whole world collectively) do not do so (i.e. become allies, as one united block with one Khalifah - chief Muslim ruler for the whole Muslim world to make victorious All�h's Religion of Isl�mic Monotheism), there will be Fitnah (wars, battles, polytheism, etc.) and oppression on earth, and a great mischief and corruption (appearance of polytheism).
Abu Dawood 2493, Narrated Abu Malik al-Ash'ari
AbuMalik heard the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) say: He who goes forth in Allah's path and dies or is killed is a martyr, or has his neck broken through being thrown by his horse or by his camel, or is stung by a poisonous creature, or dies on his bed by any kind of death Allah wishes is a martyr and will go to Paradise.
www.muttaqun.com...
Originally posted by FredT
yes I agree and it illustrates the point I was trying to make. Passages also seem to be taken out of context by the more radical elements as well. It goes both ways. Just as Western media and the public in geneneral have misconceptions and mis-interpretations of the Quran and Islam in general, these perceptions are reinforced by the radical and incosistent interpretations of the holy book by the radical elements.
Quite simply this is going to degenerate between a us or them type of conflict with the western world opposed to the growing radicalism. While it may sound clihed we seem on the cusp of a 21st century Crusades.
Originally posted by cstyle226
It shouldn't have to be this way, but I'm afraid you're right. And I'm sure you already know this, but for those who don't:
Originally posted by FredT
I agree, but as long as thier is a demand for the oil, Im afraid we are heading to a global conflict that will cost millions upon millions of lives.