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US/CUBA Strengthened Relationship. Why now?

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posted on Dec, 18 2014 @ 12:24 AM
Russian conspiracy theory aside there is another possibility.

Both Castros are up there in age and don't have the best health. Restoring relations now would allow the US to hit the ground running if there is a transfer of power.

Its possible if they die a power struggle might occur.
Its possible they could become a democracy (broad term).

Finally the embargo never made any sense. It did not work for the last half decade so why continue?

posted on Dec, 18 2014 @ 12:56 AM
Few points to ponder:

a) It's US congress that holds the yes or no veto over this change of relations with Cuba. WH has limited powers.

b) Soon Cuba will also be a victim of a regime change and most probably an invasion Libya style.

c) Russia is too busy in Ukraine to be able to help.

d) Friendly regime in Cuba means no more Russian missiles on the island.

e) Aegis system shoots down incoming ICBMs, USN hunts down Russian subs, little chance of RuAF able to come near to mainland US, Cuba is only place where Russians could sneak in their missiles for a quick hit. Time to close off Cuba option too.

f) US is fervently and relentlessly working to corner Russia. It seems to be in some sort of a hurry.

posted on Dec, 18 2014 @ 01:04 AM
This is another slap on the face of idiot Russians who just wrote off $32B of Cuban debt.

Now US will develop trade relations with a country that is far lighter in debt.

Stupid Russians, outfoxed again !!

posted on Dec, 18 2014 @ 04:12 AM
Why now? Oil is 50$ Cuba cannot milk Venezuela anymore so it moves to a bigger sugardaddy.

Never trust a comunist.

posted on Dec, 18 2014 @ 07:02 AM
I knew a Cuban guy in high school whose family left because of Castro. Personally, I would like to see U.S. citizens be able to freely enjoy some Cuban cigars or other cultural aspects like music, food and the arts. Let people legally vacation down there, it is far beyond the time for that, IMO.

posted on Dec, 18 2014 @ 07:25 AM
Regardless of the motivation behind the move, what boggles me are the people coming out wanting to reverse the move and maintain the sanctions as soon as they get a chance.

So apparently it is absolutely necessary to have an embargo against a moderate regime that is failing where the rest of the world vacations, but it is absolutely necessary to maintain free trade with China who has the most dismal human rights record of all.

Politicians are scumbags on both sides, but It is well past time for the embargo to end, and let freedoms filter in via diffusion. It is a tiny island on our doorstep where that tactic will work much faster.
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posted on Dec, 19 2014 @ 08:15 PM
maybe america is just trying to make buddies since theyve annoyed a good portion of allies throughout the iraq/afghan fiasco.

i remember when obama wanted to bomb syria to start with and there was barely any public support in america or allied countries, i guess people at home are tired of troops dying for oil when we only see the price increase at the pump.

posted on Dec, 19 2014 @ 10:23 PM
I'll wait to celebrate this Cuban thing until I see the selfies posted by Barack and Hillary sitting on the steps of the Cuban capital building in old Havana.

posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 05:48 AM

originally posted by: SayonaraJupiter
I'll wait to celebrate this Cuban thing until I see the selfies posted by Barack and Hillary sitting on the steps of the Cuban capital building in old Havana.

obama wont bother visitin cuba...i dont think theres a gold course there

posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:22 AM
a reply to: fieldyznutz

Exactly. To avoid another Cuban missile crisis.

I doubt it...these days there are probably dozens of nukes UNDER the waters around Cuba, either in purpose built undersea bases or on permanently rotated nuclear subs stations just off the Cuban fact, i'd bet there has been since the 60's crisis.

posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 06:32 AM
Recent updates to oil reserves put cuba at 20 billion barrels with russia being the only company as of right now that is looking . That would put it in the top 20 oil producing nations. They didn't lift the embargo but I bet it will stir up more interest as the first steps have been taken.

Here's and article about the capabilities that cuba doesn't have.
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posted on Dec, 20 2014 @ 07:19 AM
Actually the Russian connection while one that could be the simple answer to "why now" is not simple as that

Believe it or not is all talk and nothing but BS.

Obama can say anything he wants about lifting the embargo, bring Cuba to the 21first century on economic prosperity jada, jada, jada.

But it needs congress to lift the embargo and that is going to take longer than many may think.

Still, some experts are pointing out that this so call "talks" are based more on oil than anything else.

Some speakers call it a "an Obama fairy tale of foreign policy with not backing"

177th out of 178 countries in the 2014 Index of Economic Freedom, the people in Cuba will have not benefits whatsoever on any promises Obama may make to the government in Cuba.

The government is in in trouble, because finally US years of weakening Venezuela, "Cuba's best friends" is happening due to oil prices. So in order for the Cuban government to keep control of the Cuba population it needs helps even if they are US presidential empty promises.

A one-party Communist state since the Castros took over more than 50 years ago, Cuba depends on external assistance—chiefly oil subsidies provided by Venezuela and remittances from Cuban émigrés—and a captive labor force to survive.

With the Castro-lite regime of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro on the verge of collapse due to plummeting world oil prices, the Cuban government knows it cannot count on the billions in subsidies from Caracas to keep flowing, so a potential flood of greenbacks from North America suddenly looks very inviting.

Its hard to teach an old dog of communist ideas new tricks base in capitalism and democracy.

Yet as Senator Marco Rubio (R–FL) noted, while President Obama’s appeasement of the brutally repressive Castro regime may help it to survive politically by refloating the socialist Cuban economy on inflows of American aid, corporate investments, expatriate remittances, and tourism receipts, the regime will have no incentive to establish the rule of law or to take any of the many other steps toward democratic capitalism that would improve economic freedom for the Cuban people.

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