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originally posted by: openminded2011
a reply to: Indigo5
Sorry for my cynicism but it doesnt even matter who you vote for.
originally posted by: zazzafrazz
Prez Jeb.
Does Cheney have a brother?
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: openminded2011
a reply to: Indigo5
Sorry for my cynicism but it doesnt even matter who you vote for.
Here is the painful truth...Voting DOES matter, it is just that the majority of voters stick with the choices that are propped up by TPTB and $$.
Ralph Nader, Ross Perot, Ron Paul...etc. proved you can scare the machine.
"Our" votes matter...even when our guys don't win, it effs up the paradigm. Even if it only pulls enough of the vote away from the Dems or the GOPs choice to frustrate the outcome of who wins amongst the predetermined choices...aka pulls enough votes away to 3rd party to tip it toward GOP or Dem...it forces those parties to figure out a way to appeal to those voters they are losing.
Voting is important even if our guy loses IMO. It is an all out battle, not a duel, and every shot fired counts.
originally posted by: UnBreakable
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: openminded2011
a reply to: Indigo5
Sorry for my cynicism but it doesnt even matter who you vote for.
Here is the painful truth...Voting DOES matter, it is just that the majority of voters stick with the choices that are propped up by TPTB and $$.
Ralph Nader, Ross Perot, Ron Paul...etc. proved you can scare the machine.
"Our" votes matter...even when our guys don't win, it effs up the paradigm. Even if it only pulls enough of the vote away from the Dems or the GOPs choice to frustrate the outcome of who wins amongst the predetermined choices...aka pulls enough votes away to 3rd party to tip it toward GOP or Dem...it forces those parties to figure out a way to appeal to those voters they are losing.
Voting is important even if our guy loses IMO. It is an all out battle, not a duel, and every shot fired counts.
Rand Paul will provide the scare, if he makes it that far, to the Dems this year. He has the chance to be nominated Rep. AND Libertarian candidate in '16.
"Libertarians May Co-Nominate Rand Paul in 2016
Members of the large third party brace for a fight"
www.usnews.com...
originally posted by: Indigo5
LINK: www.cnn.com...
"As a result of these conversations and thoughtful consideration of the kind of strong leadership I think America needs, I have decided to actively explore the possibility of running for President of the United States," he said.
Apart from his obvious heritage, both a son and brother to former Presidents...
What do we know about his history and political stances?
ATS members are typically more informed than the average voter, so let's figure out what we know and offer some opinions?
Just a few items to start it off...Obviously much more to examine in history and policy.
Born: February 11, 1953 in Midland Texas. 2nd Son to Pres. G.H.W. Bush and younger Brother to Pres. G. W. Bush.
Graduate of University of Texas, Degree in Latin American Affairs
Before Politics, he worked for Texas Commerce Bank (Founded by James Baker's family - Pres. Reagans Chief of Staff)
He spent time in Venezuela opening a bank for the firm.
After that moved to Miami and worked for a Cuban Real Estate Mogul, Armando Codina.
originally posted by: lonesomerimbaud
a reply to: Indigo5
This Bush/Clinton monopoly on the Presidency is not democratically healthy.
Analyse this: Out of the hundreds of millions of U.S citizens what are the chances of 3 members of the same family achieving high office without there being a form of monopoly at work?
Some people have told me it is only because the Bushes and Clintons are wealthy enough to afford the costs of running. If that is so then this is again an affront on democracy.
It is not healthy chaps and chapesses. I wish policy was a determining factor, but it isn't.
originally posted by: caterpillage
Don't know much about him, had enough bushes though. So, no thanks. Had enough Clinton's too.
I think rioting would be a mild reply to what they have done.