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It's actually the theme beginning in Genesis. That faith is counted for righteousness. Abraham was justified when he believed God.
The law wasn't meant to justify anyone, the Law was just given to condemn.
And Jesus clearly made it known that any man who believed on Him would be saved. Think the thief on the cross.
And it was Paul who was sent to the Gentiles, I personally think because he was a Roman citizen and was educated in Greek. Peter was an illiterate fisherman. His only letter that he wrote himself is extremely rough Greek. Peter spent his ministry in Babylon, Iraq. At that time the greatest gathering of Jews outside of Jerusalem was in Babylon.
James seems to disagree with that...
Why give a law that no one can keep...
Peter Got himself Killed where he landed as well though... but we don't know where Paul went, He just disappeared...
James isn't describing the process of salvation, he is describing the evidence or "fruit" of a saved person. A true salvation experience will change a person. And the point I mentioned about the thief is that he could not go to the temple to make a sacrifice for his sins according to the Law of Moses, he was nailed to a Roman cross. He was saved by grace
And God did give the Law, but if you remember the Law was broken by men before Moses even came down from the mountain, they had erected the golden calf.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Peter and Paul were both executed in Rome. Peter was crucified as he was a Jew, Paul was beheaded because while being a Jew, he also was a Roman citizen, and it was illegal to crucify a Roman citizen under Roman law.
Concerning the time, place, and manner of his death, we have little certainty.
if you are not far distant from Macedonia,
you have the Church of Philippi of Thessalonica ; if you go forth into
Asia, you have the Church of Ephesus ; if, however, you wend your way
to Italy, you have the Church of Koine, whence authority is at hand for us
likewise. * Ista quam f elix Ecclesia ! ' Church peculiarly happy, into
which the Apostles poured forth their whole doctrine with their blood !
where Peter was crucified, like his Divine Master; and Paul, like the
Baptist, was beheaded ; where John the Apostle, after having been thrown
into a caldron of seething oil, came forth unhurt, and is banished to the
its not a "fall back" as you claim... I bring Paul up because everything that is wrong with Christianity has to do with the OT or Paul...
too late... and now you've called me a liar as well...
Just because I don't agree with your religion or your version of Christianity does not mean I am lying...
Way to stay true to form... use a passage from the gospels... then back to Paul...
Your not talking about Christianity if you throw those to things out, and come on your going to try and say we should listen to Jesus but throw the OT out? The whole OT foreshadows Christ... this is what shows me you have never done true biblical research
You keep saying everything I am saying is Paul's doctrine, so do me a favor go back through our post here and give me everything I have said that is only a teaching of Paul and not a teaching of Christ.
Humans come into world with a strong desire to sin. The desire however is not learned it is simply part of each individuals essence
Without this desire to sin a person loses who they are. If any of us were devoid of the ability to sin we would no longer be the people we are at this moment. We would lose our identity.
I do in some aspect hate part of everyone I know. I can't say I don't hate that person because the Truth is I do hate who people are and who I am.
I hate my life simply because of the choices that I make here. Choices I make simply because its who I am. I don't like being the way that I am, but I know that those actions I regret are part of me and that given the choice I would chose to do them multiple times even though I know they are wrong.
Once a person becomes aware of this nature inside of people it becomes blatantly obvious as to the corruption within our flesh.
Sin is something we are fighting its a war and many of you are asleep in the trenches. Wake up. Realize a war is being fought.
And? Thats not an insult it is simply a statement that is true for everyone in the world lol.
Ah but you are lying when you say the OT and Paul are not coherent with the rest of the Bible.
Throwing the OT out and saying the parts about Jesus are true is just silly... throw out the some 300 messianic prophecies but Jesus is still Messiah
how does that seem logical to you?
LOL how is that back to Paul? again your just throwing that statement out there but your not explaining yourself at all..its a cop out.
Because flesh until then is a slave to sin. Only through Christ can that bondage be set free.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: NOTurTypical
The difference between Alexander and Paul is that many historians wrote about Alexander, Paul has maybe 1 or 2 that wrote about him and only briefly. Acts is not a historical document either.
I would say he was "saved" by repentance to the lord...
the blood of the innocent does not save anything... never has never will...
And the Greek term for repentance is "metanoia", meaning 'to change one's mind'. He did change his mind, he believed that Jesus was Lord and had the authority and power to save him from his sins. He expressed that belief on the cross. He was saved NOT by works, but by grace. It was impossible for him to do works, he was nailed to a Roman cross.
Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. This essential truth was first shown to Adam and Eve in the garden when God killed two innocent animals to cover their nakedness. He shed the blood of the innocent to cover them. The theme is consistent throughout the OT.
Perhaps in his particular case... speaking directly to the Lord, asking him to "remember me" he was an exception
This is simply not true... One can not place their sins on another person or being...
Its just a gruesome and disgusting practice...
Most of what is written about the apostles are confined to a few select books, most of which are in the bible...