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Sydney cafe being held up now isis flag in window

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posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:11 AM
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a reply to: daaskapital

ISIS flag you got to be freaking joking. Man these people are out of control




posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:12 AM
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Where the hell are Sydney Police going to get an ISIS Flag from?

Do these idiots think there is a big room full of flags for all occasions.

Sure, if they wanted a Canadian flag they could ask the embassy.

But an Isis flag?

P



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:12 AM
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originally posted by: daaskapital
From the Sydney Morning Herald:


This just in from the SMH reporter Tim Elliott:

The Martin Place hostage taker has requested police locate an Islamic State flag for him, according to a senior figure in the Sydney Muslim community.

"The man inside the café said that if police could get him an ISIS flag, then he would release some hostages," said the senior figure.

"A contact I know from Counter Terrorism phoned me four or five times today asking if I could find them an ISIS flag, in a hurry. At one stage I had a team of people trying to find one," the senior figure told Elliott.

After receiving the calls, the community leader rang everyone she knew: "I must have called 50 people trying to find an IS flag. I found plenty of people who had one, but they didn't want to give them up. They also believed that the police were trying set them up."

The source said that the request may indicate the gunman wishes to be seen as part of IS.

"Or it could mean that he could be from Jabhat Al-Nusra, which hates IS, and he might want to burn that IS flag to make a statement," the source said.

Possession of the ISIS flag is illegal.


www.smh.com.au...


Or it could be that he's trying to fulfill that "drape a person with the IS flag and behead them publicly" threat that was mentioned earlier...



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:13 AM
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Amazon may have them, but no one wants to wait 4 - 6 weeks for delivery
a reply to: neo96



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:13 AM
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a reply to: Answer

Yes, i just remembered that...i hope it isn't what he wants it for. As i said in just editing my previous comment, police better be able to swoop in and nail him once giving him the flag for a couple of hostages...
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posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:14 AM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
Where the hell are Sydney Police going to get an ISIS Flag from?

Do these idiots think there is a big room full of flags for all occasions.

Sure, if they wanted a Canadian flag they could ask the embassy.

But an Isis flag?

P


I guess the Saudi Embassy since they created them.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:19 AM
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originally posted by: Shana91aus
a reply to: daaskapital

I now cringe when i read/hear false flag! Every single thing along these lines that happens someone will pop up and say it, i mean absolutely no offense to them but i read it in every single thread when there is a crisis like this especially when terrorists are involved.
i do mean offense to them. they are bat poop crazy or trolls. the kind of idiot that accosts octogenarian Buzz Aldrin about faked moon landings and gets rightfully decked by an old man on camera for the world to see. Does not happen often enough though.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:19 AM
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Apparently the gunman has threatened to start killing hostages if his requests aren't met.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:19 AM
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originally posted by: daaskapital
a reply to: Answer

Yes, i just remembered that...i hope it isn't what he wants it for. As i said in just editing my previous comment, police better be able to swoop in and nail him once giving him the flag for a couple of hostages...


I find the request worrisome...

We've already had a hostage making a throat cutting gesture.

The hostage-taker has to know that once he kills a hostage, the cops will move to take him out so he can afford to give up a few hostages for the flag since he only needs one.

Hopefully he wants to burn the flag publicly but he certainly chose a very very strange way to get publicity if that's his goal. He could have very easily accomplished that goal without taking people hostage.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:20 AM
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If he did bring the wrong flag... then well I guess we can actually call this a False Flag


Edit: The bombs are confirmed to be real!


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posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:20 AM
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My friend who is in Sydney just text me. One of their demands is they want an ISIS flag. Apparently they're hard to come by



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:22 AM
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originally posted by: Kuroodo
If he did bring the wrong flag... then well I guess we can actually call this a False Flag


Edit: The bombs are confirmed to be real!



LOL, we are witnessing a false flag in the LITERAL sense! This time, it's a fact, not a nutter statement, haha.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:22 AM
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a reply to: my1percent



comfirmed Islamic state flag in window


100% False.

The flag is the Islamic Shahada flag: Wikipedia: Shahada



The Shahada (Arabic: الشهادة‎ aš-šahādah About this sound audio (help·info) "the testimony"; also aš-šahādatān (الشَهادَتانْ, "the two testimonials")) is an Islamic creed declaring belief in the oneness of God and the acceptance of Muhammad as God's prophet. The declaration, in its shortest form, reads:

لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
lā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāh, muhammadun rasūlu-llāh
There is no god but the God, Muhammad is the messenger of the God.


The statement is one of the 'pillars' of Islam.

The words also appear on the Saudi National flag, for example.

When written on the black ground it DOES have symbolism related to militancy, in much the same way that the western Anarchist flag does. But it is NOT the DAESH flag (by the way DAESH is neither Islamic nor a State).

As I type this, Police are debriefing 5 hostages that have escaped or been released. One of them is apparently in hospital - probably due to stress related injuries I expect.

If you are religious, please pray for all the hostages and their families.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:24 AM
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8 cops arrested a guy running around the casino with a sword



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:24 AM
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From Chris Reason from Channel 7, which is located across the road from the cafe:


Police have allowed me back into Martin Place newsroom - gunman is clear - white shirt, black cap, unshaven, holds poss pump action shotgun


twitter.com...


From inside Martin Place newsroom, we've counted around 15 hostages - not 50 - mix of women, men, young, old - but no children.


twitter.com...


From inside Martin Place newsroom we can see gunman is rotating hostages, forcing them to stand against windows, sometimes 2 hours at a time


twitter.com...
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posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:25 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
Honestly?

Where the hell they gonna get an ISIS flag?

Like they are laying around everywhere in Australia.



well .... there is a bloke on radio now who was raided by police the other week claiming police have rang him to get an ISIS flag. wtf



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:25 AM
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now we just have to wonder whether he truly asked for an ISIS flag

or if the tptb are just trying to link this to ISIS.

never let a crisis go to waste

false flags indeed.
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posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:26 AM
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a reply to: rnaa

Demands have been made for a proper ISIS flag. So its a moot point,he ought not kill anybody, this man better not walk out alive and if he dose send him over here for some good old CIA torture and information gathering.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:26 AM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
Where the hell are Sydney Police going to get an ISIS Flag from?

Do these idiots think there is a big room full of flags for all occasions.

Sure, if they wanted a Canadian flag they could ask the embassy.

But an Isis flag?

P


Don't they have screen-printing shops in Sydney? I can get any flag I can get a digital image of in less than 6 hours down at the local T-shirt and banner print shop. And my order doesn't have police priority. Are these cops REALLY that thick?!



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:28 AM
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The possibility that his daughter went to Syria and was killed there does change things.. it makes me wonder a bit more I suppose, because if that is the case he could be just as angry with ISIS as with the west..

so who knows?




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