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Sydney cafe being held up now isis flag in window

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posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:40 PM
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Not at all confirmed but here:

Gunman's headband reads, "We are your soldiers O Muhammad".

Want to add I pulled this from somewhere else, not trying to take credit for deciphering.


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posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: Realtruth

Again, i couldn't agree with you more! Very well said. It is looking more and more like an attention grab situation, usually when they carry out attacks it is quick and brutal, no negotiating what so ever.



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: Domo1

Well it does look odd in the photos we have seen of the hostages wearing what looked to me like flack vests or something. I wondered if that was so that the Police do not shoot through a single hostage to the criminal? Even though I did not hear or read that they may have explosives strapped to them that would make sense since if it is a single man, why they have not just overtaken him. Oh I hope that is not right.



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: Shana91aus
a reply to: zazzafrazz

I know
i know many people from Sydney, i hope that it doesn't lose it's laid back attitude and atmosphere because of this, i hope our whole country doesn't.


Shana,

I hope that doesn't happen, because I sure do like the laid back, happy-go-lucky attitude of most Aussie's.





posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:45 PM
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posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:46 PM
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originally posted by: Emerald53
a reply to: Anyafaj

I think it's just a want to be showing support..


It could certainly be possible. I feel for those inside. I certainly hope they are released soon, but something tells me either the takers are awaiting a signal of some kind, or once they feel they have enough attention, this will reach a pinnacle NO ONE will want. I just pray I'm wrong.




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posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:47 PM
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originally posted by: Anyafaj

originally posted by: Emerald53
a reply to: feelingconnected

I was just watching the Head Officer for NSW Police and he has said they aren't at all related to ISIS. They also said they wont be getting into the details of who the flag belongs too just yet..


I know Daily Mail isn't the greatest with news, but they're claiming the flag belongs to Al-Nasuri.



The group publicly announced its presence in Syria in a January 2012 video statement. In early April 2013, Jabhat al-Nusra pledged allegiance to al-Qa'ida leader Ayman al-Zawahiri and confirmed the group has received funding and operatives from AQI.

Jabhat al Nusra, or JN's stated objectives are to remove the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and once this is achieved, to replace it with a Sunni Islamic state.

Although the group is affiliated with al-Qaeda, JN has previously not emphasised an attack Western targets or global jihad, focusing instead on the ‘near enemy’ of the Syrian state.


Jabhat al Nusra?






otherwise known as the falgg of Twheed


many groups fly this flag !

it has a significant meaning , being la illa ha ill la ALLAH (their is no god but god ) it can also be called the Shada this is the deceleration one takes when converting to Islam

this flag is common in Islam , not sure how they are trying to make the connection to Al Nusra ?



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:50 PM
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Former New South Wales Senator David Oldfield has said that well placed sources state that the extremists in Sydney have explosives.

twitter.com...



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: CollateralWatching the live coverage and the past 10 mins has been a Victorian press conference, reminding all Victorians that they are safe and that there are no victorians being held hostage, and that they as victorians should be proud of their community and that these things dont happen there.


I deleted the insults to Victorians in your comment but to me, Victoria just made themselves more of a target. Coming out and saying "this doesn't happen here", right at this moment probably just got them a big tick and a "we'll see", from some other nutjob extremist. Very stupid idea, Victoria.

PS - I'm not Victorian



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:52 PM
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a reply to: TechniXcality

Any one named Muhammad?

These guys are radicals, or nuts acting as such cause they want the attention know that is what will get it.



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:53 PM
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originally posted by: Walsh

originally posted by: Anyafaj

originally posted by: Emerald53
a reply to: feelingconnected

I was just watching the Head Officer for NSW Police and he has said they aren't at all related to ISIS. They also said they wont be getting into the details of who the flag belongs too just yet..




I know Daily Mail isn't the greatest with news, but they're claiming the flag belongs to Al-Nasuri.



The group publicly announced its presence in Syria in a January 2012 video statement. In early April 2013, Jabhat al-Nusra pledged allegiance to al-Qa'ida leader Ayman al-Zawahiri and confirmed the group has received funding and operatives from AQI.

Jabhat al Nusra, or JN's stated objectives are to remove the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and once this is achieved, to replace it with a Sunni Islamic state.

Although the group is affiliated with al-Qaeda, JN has previously not emphasised an attack Western targets or global jihad, focusing instead on the ‘near enemy’ of the Syrian state.


Jabhat al Nusra?






otherwise known as the falgg of Twheed


many groups fly this flag !

it has a significant meaning , being la illa ha ill la ALLAH (their is no god but god ) it can also be called the Shada this is the deceleration one takes when converting to Islam

this flag is common in Islam , not sure how they are trying to make the connection to Al Nusra ?



Often, English converts are instructed to say "There is no God but Allah"



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:53 PM
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As soon has I heard on channel 9 that the Australian Government was to speak about the current Financial situation, I thought what a coincidence, then after reading and hearing so many speeches from various people about whats happening from police to public figures all of their speeches sound Oddly a like. That they either just copied each other word for word is some parts or its just a coincidence that the same words and same sentence structure came to mind to whom "ever's" wrote the speeches



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:53 PM
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a reply to: Realtruth

So do i! I think that there may be some back lash for this though, there is 'groups' that operate purely out of hate for these Muslim extremists here and i have been thinking there will be another race riot like Cronulla for some time now , and us Aussies dont really tend to take any sh!t so i predict something will follow and there will be ALOT more tension after this.



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:54 PM
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originally posted by: TDawgRex

originally posted by: Ensinger23
I honestly can't come up with words for this. The video link is down, but I'm sure I'll find it in other news sources. Thanks for bringing this here. S&F


SkyNews is carrying it live.

news.sky.com...


Oh yeah, this is a good one. Saying the police are treating it as is "consistent with terrorism"; saying there are about 14 hostages (but the crawl underneath is saying as many as 40), and have only verified one person with a gun. So, mixed messages across the board.

ETA: Have been listening more to this and they are literally changing what they say about it with every breath. I guess there is really not enough info to have a handle on it yet.
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posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:55 PM
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posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:55 PM
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Apparently it's not an ISIS flag twitter.com...

(sorry if I am late and was already discussed)



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:55 PM
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originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: Walsh

originally posted by: Anyafaj

originally posted by: Emerald53
a reply to: feelingconnected

I was just watching the Head Officer for NSW Police and he has said they aren't at all related to ISIS. They also said they wont be getting into the details of who the flag belongs too just yet..




I know Daily Mail isn't the greatest with news, but they're claiming the flag belongs to Al-Nasuri.



The group publicly announced its presence in Syria in a January 2012 video statement. In early April 2013, Jabhat al-Nusra pledged allegiance to al-Qa'ida leader Ayman al-Zawahiri and confirmed the group has received funding and operatives from AQI.

Jabhat al Nusra, or JN's stated objectives are to remove the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and once this is achieved, to replace it with a Sunni Islamic state.

Although the group is affiliated with al-Qaeda, JN has previously not emphasised an attack Western targets or global jihad, focusing instead on the ‘near enemy’ of the Syrian state.


Jabhat al Nusra?






otherwise known as the falgg of Twheed


many groups fly this flag !

it has a significant meaning , being la illa ha ill la ALLAH (their is no god but god ) it can also be called the Shada this is the deceleration one takes when converting to Islam

this flag is common in Islam , not sure how they are trying to make the connection to Al Nusra ?



Often, English converts are instructed to say "There is no God but Allah"



everyone who converts to Islam takes the Shahada .... its also said every day in prayer ? ALLAH means god in Arabic its a perfect way of saying god , its a single you cant attach multiples to it .

Example : the god's

in Arabic it cant be the ALLAH's . it won't work grammatically.


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posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:56 PM
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Yes so far they are very reluctant to call this "terrorism", stressing that they are so far treating it as a 'criminal' issue, NOT terror related...



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 09:56 PM
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Lindt Chocolate Cafe Australia have released a statement on the siege. They have closed the rest of their cafes in Australia because of the “serious” situation:

We would like to thank everyone for their thoughts and kind support over the current situation at the Lindt Chocolate Café at Martin Place. We are deeply concerned over this serious incident and our thoughts and prayers are with the staff and customers involved and all their friends and families. The matter is being dealt with by the authorities and we are waiting for any updates from them.



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