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Sydney cafe being held up now isis flag in window

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posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: my1percent

How did this happen?

Aren't firearms illegal in Australia?????

Sorry, just a bit confused here..........


Yes, banning firearms obviously prevents criminals from getting them.

My thoughts and prayers with those taken hostage and their families.




posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:50 PM
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originally posted by: Neocrusader
You knowingly support allow and are empathetic to what your gov does IN YOUR NAME, then add on all the s### you don't know or have herd the possibility right here on ats
You know whats going on around the world yet you allow it to continue a reply to: daaskapital



So you're up first then? Gonna lead the way? First in the door? Or too busy defending the idea of cutting 3 year olds in half because they're not the only ones that do it?

Everybody wants to be a gangster till its time to do gangster # brah.



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: daaskapital

He looks like Ali G.



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:51 PM
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It seems to be that there is only one person involved, since the second gunman has not been confirmed, which makes me think that this person is just a random nut/wannabe jihadist, rather than an organised ISIL operation.

If he was officially apart of ISIL, you would think that they could of at least provided him with the proper propaganda.



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:52 PM
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I'm at least trying
Perhaps if you'd care to read my introduction you may have an idea of where I come from

In a nut shell I joined up pre 9/11
Then found myself spending 60% of my time on operations in the ME and elsewhere and have something of a different perspective due to my experiences and operations
My apologies if I've offended but sometimes the truth hurts a reply to: TechniXcality



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:53 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:53 PM
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A side note : The Pluto/Uranus square is exact today.
1%



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: Neocrusader
We blow up, assasinate, steel resources, torture, rape, murder , burn, shoot, destroy, poison , support oppression, create unrest and dissent, sterilization programs, oh my god need I really go on
Just coz we take it like Hindu cows
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask



Im pretty damn sure no one in that shop did any of that, infact im pretty damn sure that 90 percent of the victims of these extremist didnt do ANY of that.........furthermore, i know damn WELL none of the children and babies they have decapitated have done any of that

Shall I keep going or do you want to keep on with that despicable line of excuses



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:55 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Shamrock6

That's the second time you've said that...
Care to back it up with a source...
& not one that links back to the Christian Post...


Good luck, you won't find one.


Edit: You know what, let's not derail the thread with nonsense.



"They say if anyone don't [sic] become like Muslim, we['re] going to kill them, each one, from baby to women to old man," he said. "We don't have anything here," one woman told CBN News.


That ISIS was shooting the kids and people, and they were laying them on the ground and they bring tractors that they walk [drive] over them in front of their families," she said. "They take women out of their houses so if a family had three daughters, they would take one.

www.cbn.com...


Four young Christians brutally beheaded by ISIS in Iraq for refusing to convert to Islam

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... ew-White.html#ixzz3LvZ2ndXo

www.dailymail.co.uk... ew-White.html

edit on 14-12-2014 by OccamsRazor04 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:56 PM
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The prime minister isn't telling us anything we don't already know anyway! I cant stand that man



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:56 PM
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originally posted by: Neocrusader
I'm at least trying
Perhaps if you'd care to read my introduction you may have an idea of where I come from

In a nut shell I joined up pre 9/11
Then found myself spending 60% of my time on operations in the ME and elsewhere and have something of a different perspective due to my experiences and operations
My apologies if I've offended but sometimes the truth hurts a reply to: TechniXcality



Terrific. I was in before 9/11 too. Spent a while in. I guarantee you did not see anything more or worse than I did. And guess what dude? I think cutting 3 year olds in half is wrong no matter who does it, and I don't defend anybody for doing it, regardless of who they are or what flag they fly.

How's that for perspective?



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Never mind.
edit on 14-12-2014 by CharlieSpeirs because: These sources are suspect...


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posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:57 PM
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Can we please keep to the topic at hand instead of turning this into a political/conspiratorial bitch fest? I'm trying to get updates on the hostage situation and I don't want to weed through 6 pages of bickering to get each new piece of information.

Take the arguments to another thread.

edit on 12/14/2014 by Answer because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome

Are you trying to be funny? This not the time or place for your "updates".


Unsure if it was mentioned yet, but Aussie news says the guy stopped nearby with the handgun referenced a few pages ago didn't have anything to do with the hostage situation. Wrong place, wrong time thing for him, I guess. Here in the live updates:
www.smh.com.au...
edit on 12/14/2014 by Nyiah because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:57 PM
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Anyone confirm reports someone walked into a hospital and dropped off a suspicious package?

So what do we know?

2 hostage takers confirmed by people that escaped Cafe

13 hostages or more

Reports that one of the men may be wearing a backpack and suicide vest

Hostages being held in 2 different groups

Only military and police vehicles allowed in airspace

Threats of other targets in Sydney

They've made demands on the radio to speak with PM

CEO of Lindt has apparently said between 40 and 50 hostages

The flag is a Shahadah




That all seem right so far? I just found out about this and want to make sure I'm up to date.


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posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: bellagirl

So obviously they arent blocking mobile phones then...



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: Answer thank you



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: Shana91aus

It was a rather "huh" speech.

Listening to it was like I never heard it and/or it wouldn't have made any difference if I did.


edit on 14-12-2014 by MrLimpet because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 08:00 PM
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a reply to: LiveForever8

It's a Lindt Chocolate shop. Lindt have refused to go halal, and therefore they apparently became a target. It seems terrorists are angry because they can't eat our chocolate.



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 08:00 PM
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a reply to: Domo1

CEO of Lindt has apparently said between 40 and 50 hostages

was the only surprise,, it was initially,,

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