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The New Face of War: A Picture of the Opening Salvo of a Potential New World War

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posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 06:44 AM
a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

It went down very briefly according to isitdown but I was able to acces it the entire time that ATS was down.

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 07:03 AM
a reply to: Hefficide

Sweden never was a part of the Netherlands, neither is it Schweiz.

Just sayin', if I had a dollar every time I heard that.

Great thread though, keep it up.

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 07:54 AM
The Norse site is showing sporadic attacks with hits in the hundreds but there is still a lot of quiet time with the usual benign port sniffing activity.

If a military entity wanted to spring an event on the global public like Pearl Harbor in WW2 they would need to silence the boards first. With everybody connected by the internet, live independent video sources etc., too many people might ignore the MSM sources.

Back when I was doing systems work the crucial systems were running on extremely redundant fault tolerant Tandom hardware with proprietary networks like Sterling connect. The Guardian/nonstop OS was a kickback to the 70's but you seldom heard of successful hacker attacks. Seems like mostly the social media networks being attacked recently. The Swedes must use networks that run outside of TCP/IP network traffic.

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 08:20 AM
So I was showing this to my gf and at the time this crazy activity started happening.

Check it out, Chile got involved and in a big big way.
Can anyone decipher what actually is happening in this and what a telnet attack is.

I would love to see this thread blow up big time. I feel like this is serious, The USA is getting hammered big time.

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 08:46 AM
a reply to: stormcell

Is that kind of like the wealthy ride over head in lear jets and helicopters while the rest of us slug it out in traffic?

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 08:51 AM
Well watching IPViking live and China really doesn't like St Louis right now. Possible ties to what's going on in Ferguson maybe?.

China, Watertown US, Dallas US, University of Michigan, Military/Gov, Seattle, it seems like everyone is slamming St. Louis right now.

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 09:28 AM
Can someone in the know explain how an emp strike would be long term? If you surround lead plates with acid you will produce electric power even if an emp went off 5 minutes ago. How would it keep a gas generator that was not connected to the grid from working?

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 09:32 AM
a reply to: tmeister182

An EMP is electromagnetic discharge that fries electronics. DDoS is, overly simplified, clogging the Internet's pipes to the point where they won't flow correctly.

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 12:49 PM
a reply to: Hefficide

Its still raging today,China Vs USA mostly,but I found something weird maybe:

On IpViking,click the "live attacks"tab to reveal more of the map.
Look approx halfway between the southern tip of South America,and the southern tip of South Africa.

There is a symbol at that point which appears nowhere else on Earth..
It seems to be a tiny island looking at maps on google.

But why the odd symbol?
And why so much activity from that island?

I have seen huge activity from that location-no other tiny islands like it are anywhere close in terms of activity.

What is that place?
Why the odd unique symbol?

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:03 PM
a reply to: Silcone Synapse

The symbol, I believe is the iViking logo ( the one that looks like a Tie fighter wing ). As for the island - I have to install some files before I can run Google Earth on my Linux machine. So It'll take me a bit to get to that point and get digging.

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:07 PM
Yep Heff,thats the place-it does look like a tie fighter window-but why is it there I wonder.
Looking at some maps-It could be that the island is called Tristan Da Cuhna,but not 100% sure.
Looks like a volcano poking through the surface of the ocean...I wonder what craziness is going on there.

Much of the activity from there seems to be hitting the USA-so unless its the USA cyber wargaming themselves,maybe China have some kind of secret station there?

Very darned weird...

Another observation-
Whenever I leave IPVikig on for more than 10 mins or so,it consistently seems that China is hitting the USA with double the amount that the USA is giving out in terms of attacks...

If this is wargame(I hope it is),then the USA is not winning by the looks of it,unless its more about quality than quantity.

edit on 15/12/2014 by Silcone Synapse because: extra words added

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:15 PM
Another quick observation-The sites are taking it to the enemy by the looks of it-Those sites are hitting back much harder,and if it is a numbers game,then they are winning.

But then they are supposed to have hardened networks,and are still getting attacked in significant numbers.

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:19 PM
a reply to: Silcone Synapse

I'll have to find it, but the Military also has deals in place with some of the largest private Internet companies and telecoms to be able to use their clouds and protections as well.

Google, for example - essentially impossible to take down.

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:36 PM
a reply to: Hefficide

So this tiny island may have some gigantic google server farm maybe..and would be a good place to try to hit the USA from.

Looking at it,it hits the USA for a while with multiple attacks from this tiny island,then stops and pings back to China,then starts attacking the USA again.

Testing for weaknesses,then getting new orders/suggestions?
attack,fail,evalute with HQ,attack again.
That would be my guess.

Lets hope they aren't going for the launch codes..

Dang it,I am spending too much time on IPViking.
It can be kind of mesmerising to look at,this secret war.

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:44 PM

originally posted by: Hefficide
a reply to: Silcone Synapse

The symbol, I believe is the iViking logo ( the one that looks like a Tie fighter wing ). As for the island - I have to install some files before I can run Google Earth on my Linux machine. So It'll take me a bit to get to that point and get digging.

According to Wikipedia:

Bouvet Island is an uninhabited sub Antarctic volcanic island and dependency of Norway located in the South Atlantic Ocean at

54°25.8′S 3°22.8′ECoordinates: 54°25.8′S 3°22.8′E. It lies at the southern end of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge and is the most remote island in the world

Doesn't look to me like it is uninhabited anymore.

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:45 PM
a reply to: RedmoonMWC

Thanks for that... now to go digging in places sane people normally wouldn't go. Deepweb here I come...

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:50 PM
a reply to: Hefficide

You are very welcome.
I'll leave the real digging to the experts.
My little insecure PC won't handle it.

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:53 PM
a reply to: RedmoonMWC
-I think my first guess at Tristan da Cunha is too far north looking at the maps.
Bouvet Island is owned by Norway and looks like its in the correct location.
IpViking is from Norway as well.


So maybe IPViking have a station there-but it looked like many attacks were launched from there...

Whats that about I wonder?

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 02:07 PM
I went as deep down as staying out of prison allows and Bouvet Island is a blank. According to all info it's uninhabited and only had an automated weather station there - though other reports conflict and say it's manned. It appears to be impossible to get to by boat, other than to peruse the shoreline AND nobody is permitted upon it without consent.

Looks like a duck.

posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 02:08 PM
a reply to: Silcone Synapse

Digital Trends article on IPViking states that they do have “honeypots” set up.

“We basically try to see as much of the dark side of the Internet as we possibly can.”

This “dark side of the Internet” includes everything from general Web traffic, to peer-to-peer networks, to IRC networks, to TOR.

It is through its agents that Norse is able to keep a keen eye on what’s happening around the Net. Among these agents are thousands of “honeypots,” traps set by Norse in an attempt to lure in hackers or, more frequently, automated tools that attack computer networks, and build botnets, which harness the power of otherwise innocent computers – like the one you’re on right now – to do various forms of digital dirty work. These honeypots include everything from servers to SEO-targeted links for hacking-related content.

From their web site.

The Norse DarkMatter™ platform is a globally distributed "distant early warning" network of millions of dark sensors, honeypots, crawlers, and agents that deliver unique visibility into the Internet and the darknets, where bad actors operate.

I've been watching their site for a while now but I'm not sure I trust them. This group could be the reason Pirate Bay is down. Working for governments to monitor the rest of us.

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